Speculation: Chris Johnston "An atom bomb could drop"

[Stephen]

Yes, @Fogelhund has thrown out Krebs before, which is a decent suggestion. Jack McBain in Utah, perhaps, which is a common @WTFMAN99 suggestion.

Or maybe we go back to the proto-Bennett in Kadri?


But I would extend the idea to also trying to find our own Forsling and Montour as well.

Yeah on the Forsling front, Victor Soderstrom and Tobias Bjornfot (who went on waivers and was claimed by Florida) from the 2019 draft.

I also wonder if you sniff around slow to develop guys on rebuilding teams, like what if Jamie Drysdale continues to struggle or if Kevin Korchinski was left behind in the Chicago system for whatever reason.

 

[Rare Jewel]

Yeah on the Forsling front, Victor Soderstrom and Tobias Bjornfot (who went on waivers and was claimed by Florida) from the 2019 draft.

I also wonder if you sniff around slow to develop guys on rebuilding teams, like what if Jamie Drysdale continues to struggle or if Kevin Korchinski was left behind in the Chicago system for whatever reason.

Yeah, and no two teams will look the same, which is why I said Kadri and then to go with him, someone like Krebs.

But, for this team in the position it is, with not much in the way of prospects or draft picks, looking for these types of players would be preferred, and what I'd want Treliving to avoid doing is trying to fix all the problems on July 1st with a chequebook.

 

[Stephen]

Yeah, and no two teams will look the same, which is why I said Kadri and then to go with him, someone like Krebs.

But, for this team in the position it is, with not much in the way of prospects or draft picks, looking for these types of players would be preferred, and what I'd want Treliving to avoid doing is trying to fix all the problems on July 1st with a chequebook.

If I were Treliving I would start the asset churn just to get assets flowing in the system again.

Step one would be to just dump a few guys and get some pick and prospect currency, get liquid again. Guys like Jarnkrok, Kampf, OEL, McCabe, Carlo, Domi, Robertson. All fair game for some kind of hockey trade. Preferably Rielly is moved but we all know the trade protection story.

And once you've freed up some more cap, just get creative and start UFA signings, use some of the futures capital, get some dumpster dives, take on some contract dumps if the fit is right. Get a little younger, bigger, faster.

 

[darrylsittler27]

If I were Treliving I would start the asset churn just to get assets flowing in the system again.

Step one would be to just dump a few guys and get some pick and prospect currency, get liquid again. Guys like Jarnkrok, Kampf, OEL, McCabe, Carlo, Domi, Robertson. All fair game for some kind of hockey trade. Preferably Rielly is moved but we all know the trade protection story.

And once you've freed up some more cap, just get creative and start UFA signings, use some of the futures capital, get some dumpster dives, take on some contract dumps if the fit is right. Get a little younger, bigger, faster.

There are ways to help Reilly leave. Just put him on 3rd pairing and bench him after each bad game. That is going to be one really bad contract soon. Reilly is maybe worth $5.5 mill to another team. We can't worry about players not wanting to be here. They don't want to now. If they don't want to be here..goodbye.

 

[rumman]

There are ways to help Reilly leave. Just put him on 3rd pairing and bench him after each bad game. That is going to be one really bad contract soon. Reilly is maybe worth $5.5 mill to another team. We can't worry about players not wanting to be here. They don't want to now. If they don't want to be here..goodbye.

I’d happily retain some of Mo’s contract if he would agree to a trade, and yes I would put pressure on him to do so. The Mo the Leafs signed isn’t the Mo who’s sucked the last two seasons and is overweight, maybe he won’t pass his medical, I remember Dustin Buff having weight issues and didn’t seem to care what ghe team thought about him entering whale territory…….

 

[usernamezrhardtodo]

I’d happily retain some of Mo’s contract if he would agree to a trade, and yes I would put pressure on him to do so. The Mo the Leafs signed isn’t the Mo who’s sucked the last two seasons and is overweight, maybe he won’t pass his medical, I remember Dustin Buff having weight issues and didn’t seem to care what ghe team thought about him entering whale territory…….

Isn't just amazing that the Team has to just shrug it's shoulders when a player isn't performing to the level expected when they signed the contract? But if the team were to ask said player to waive his NMC....all hell breaks loose and you hear about contractual obligations etc...I hate the way the NHL contracts work.

 

[rumman]

Isn't just amazing that the Team has to just shrug it's shoulders when a player isn't performing to the level expected when they signed the contract? But if the team were to ask said player to waive his NMC....all hell breaks loose and you hear about contractual obligations etc...I hate the way the NHL contracts work.

No one would be asking him to waive if he lived up to his contract, which he hasn’t for the last two seasons…….

 

[darrylsittler27]

No one would be asking him to waive if he lived up to his contract, which he hasn’t for the last two seasons…….

Like it or not he has underperformed. A message must be sent and he must be forced to perform or leave.

 

[rumman]

Like it or not he has underperformed. A message must be sent and he must be forced to perform or leave.

Agreed, let’s hope Bubbles is up to the challenge……..

 

[WTFMAN99]

Yes, @Fogelhund has thrown out Krebs before, which is a decent suggestion. Jack McBain in Utah, perhaps, which is a common @WTFMAN99 suggestion.

Or maybe we go back to the proto-Bennett in Kadri?


But I would extend the idea to also trying to find our own Forsling and Montour as well.

I'd take McBain in a second but I don't know why they'd trade him?

 

[Tak7]

I’d happily retain some of Mo’s contract if he would agree to a trade, and yes I would put pressure on him to do so. The Mo the Leafs signed isn’t the Mo who’s sucked the last two seasons and is overweight, maybe he won’t pass his medical, I remember Dustin Buff having weight issues and didn’t seem to care what ghe team thought about him entering whale territory…….

You have Matthews for 3 more years.

That's your window.

You aren't retaining salary in that window - Rielly retention would be for 4 years. That's not happening.

 

[ULF_55]

Isn't just amazing that the Team has to just shrug it's shoulders when a player isn't performing to the level expected when they signed the contract? But if the team were to ask said player to waive his NMC....all hell breaks loose and you hear about contractual obligations etc...I hate the way the NHL contracts work.

Yashin agrees with you.

Contracts, shmontracks ...

Win some lose some.

Sign a player to a team friendly deal, and then he breaks out into star category but is locked in, in a league that doesn't allow performance bonuses.

 

[Stephen]

You have Matthews for 3 more years.

That's your window.

You aren't retaining salary in that window - Rielly retention would be for 4 years. That's not happening.

I don’t know if our championship window is as clearly connected to Auston Matthews contract anymore after this past year. If anything the team will need to make intelligent decisions and build the best possible program so that it a) is an attractive recruitment tool for Matthews to re-sign and extend that window b) give the team an opportunity to decide if it wants to re-sign Matthews, whatever he looks like at 31. And c) hopefully it’s strong without Matthews if that breakup happens. The “all in” approach needs to stop and this team needs to get back to honest franchise building.

Or more likely we run this into the ground and start a 5 year rebuild in about 3 years time.

 

[Tak7]

I don’t know if our championship window is as clearly connected to Auston Matthews contract anymore after this past year. If anything the team will need to make intelligent decisions and build the best possible program so that it a) is an attractive recruitment tool for Matthews to re-sign and extend that window b) give the team an opportunity to decide if it wants to re-sign Matthews, whatever he looks like at 31. And c) hopefully it’s strong without Matthews if that breakup happens. The “all in” approach needs to stop and this team needs to get back to honest franchise building.

Or more likely we run this into the ground and start a 5 year rebuild in about 3 years time.

I'm saying you have Matthews, guaranteed, for 3 more years - so that's the defined window for a team who have told us they are trying to win a Stanley Cup now.

 

[rumman]

I'm saying you have Matthews, guaranteed, for 3 more years - so that's the defined window for a team who have told us they are trying to win a Stanley Cup now.

News flash, nothing in life is guaranteed except death and taxes........

 

[Tak7]

News flash, nothing in life is guaranteed except death and taxes........

?

They have Matthews here, guaranteed, for another 3 years, if they want him here.

 

[rumman]

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They have Matthews here, guaranteed, for another 3 years, if they want him here.

Injuries, trade requests, personal health. Plenty of things can happen in a 3 year window and those are just the obvious ones…….

 

[Menzinger]

I don’t know if our championship window is as clearly connected to Auston Matthews contract anymore after this past year. If anything the team will need to make intelligent decisions and build the best possible program so that it a) is an attractive recruitment tool for Matthews to re-sign and extend that window b) give the team an opportunity to decide if it wants to re-sign Matthews, whatever he looks like at 31. And c) hopefully it’s strong without Matthews if that breakup happens. The “all in” approach needs to stop and this team needs to get back to honest franchise building.

Or more likely we run this into the ground and start a 5 year rebuild in about 3 years time.

Management is pot committed to that.

Tres got 2-3, years to make it work, or else a replacement GM oversees a rebuild Starting with the '28 draft. Just got to enjoy the ride and hope for the best

 

[Punch Drunk Loov]

I think the Atomic bomb was indeed just a sensationalist comment he chucked again as a general possible opinion, not actual reporting

 

[Stephen]

Management is pot committed to that.

Tres got 2-3, years to make it work, or else a replacement GM oversees a rebuild Starting with the '28 draft. Just got to enjoy the ride and hope for the best

I think the best chance at success and building a program someone like Matthews would want to stay with is to build it up as strong as possible so it’s in healthy shape in 2028 and not on fumes which will exacerbate the need to rebuild.

But maybe rebuilding is where it’s all headed anyway.

 

[Trapper]

Agreed, let’s hope Bubbles is up to the challenge……..

This whole management team is a bloody pack of liars as far as I’m concerned. Only interested in cash and jersey sales.
Last year it was “time for patience is over” and “patterns indicate change”. What happened? Entire core came back.

This year it’s “need a DNA change”. But reports indicate Tavares is probably 100% to return and how sure are you they don’t give Marner 14 million? I’m not.
The same BS snow job these guys only know.

Until I see Marner actually, 100% sign somewhere else, these clowns are running it back.

 

[LeafEgo]

I don’t know if our championship window is as clearly connected to Auston Matthews contract anymore after this past year. If anything the team will need to make intelligent decisions and build the best possible program so that it a) is an attractive recruitment tool for Matthews to re-sign and extend that window b) give the team an opportunity to decide if it wants to re-sign Matthews, whatever he looks like at 31. And c) hopefully it’s strong without Matthews if that breakup happens. The “all in” approach needs to stop and this team needs to get back to honest franchise building.

Or more likely we run this into the ground and start a 5 year rebuild in about 3 years time.

Rebuilds are pretty ugly and shouldn't come around very often.

You want to get into a 20 year Boston groove or cycle like Vegas, but the dubie days made that program pretty unlikely to build up and sustain - best bet with the cards in hand might be to go all in for the next few years.

We also rightfully have an impatient fanbase.

 

[Stephen]

Rebuilds are pretty ugly and shouldn't come around very often.

You want to get into a 20 year Boston groove or cycle like Vegas, but the dubie days made that program pretty unlikely to build up and sustain - best bet with the cards in hand might be to go all in for the next few years.

We also rightfully have an impatient fanbase.

The only chance we have is to stay competitive and start flexing the economic muscle when the cap starts exploding.

 

[therealkoho]

Why is there such a uproar when a team asks the player to waive, but when the player asks for a trade thereby negating a no trade that player negotiated into his contract.

Oh and just one more thing about the Matthews contract. He gave up nothing. 13250000 the highest salary in the league. The 4 year term isn't exactly team friendly, when if your asking for all the money maybe 6 yrs+ would make more sense. All the money and still got the NMC and a short term. It really isn't the kind of contract you pin a C to, jus sayin.

 

[Trapper]

Why is there such a uproar when a team asks the player to waive, but when the player asks for a trade thereby negating a no trade that player negotiated into his contract.

Oh and just one more thing about the Matthews contract. He gave up nothing. 13250000 the highest salary in the league. The 4 year term isn't exactly team friendly, when if your asking for all the money maybe 6 yrs+ would make more sense. All the money and still got the NMC and a short term. It really isn't the kind of contract you pin a C to, jus sayin.

I agree. A short term deal doesn’t deserve the C.