Speculation: Chris Johnston "An atom bomb could drop"

[SprDaVE]

Because it takes 7 days to get tee time at this course...hmmm now let's count back from 21

Maybe for Niagara Bill. Definitely not for those guys, I can promise you that.

 

[Ports]

End result is the Oilers lost and looked horrible doing so. Yes they outplayed Dallas for 2 periods and looked good doing so. But the Leafs outplayed the Panthers in game 3 for 75% of the game and took at 3-1 lead at the beginning of the 2nd. That got them no where.

McDavid and Drai have lead the way I agree. But their play defensively has been horrible. Plus they don't kill penalties where Matthews and Marner did. And did well at it.

I dont know whats worse, having your best players produce but letting in 6 goals in a loss where they were leading and let 5 goals in the 3rd. Or losing a game, a tight game or for that matter winning a tight game where your best players are not producing???

Pick your poison. But to me both outcomes equally suck and star players have let their teams down. Lets not make Edmonton better then Toronto based on points from their star players. Overall game people.

Oilers might win the cup this year and as a Canadian I hope they do. They’re top players out perform the Leafs top players in the playoffs every year. That’s why they win more rounds. It’s not rocket science.

 

[ACC1224]

Because it takes 7 days to get tee time at this course...hmmm now let's count back from 21

Guessing you're trying to be funny, keep trying.

 

[29Potvin]

This is just me but why post that picture ?

I didnt post it

 

[shortfuze]

shouldn't take stupid penalties and then should kill them or superstar your way back into the game, they had a Ton of time after going down 4-3 and still f***ed the dog.

legit question. does Mcdavid and draisaitl play much penalty killing or take faceoffs in the defensive zone? not sure if you know, was just curious.

 

[ACC1224]

This is just me but why post that picture ?

You should ask the one that posted it.

 

[stealth1]

legit question. does Mcdavid and draisaitl play much penalty killing or take faceoffs in the defensive zone? not sure if you know, was just curious.

They do take faceoffs in the defensive zone but don't penalty kill much. That's not what they are paid for. They are paid to score and they do that very well.

 

[TheGreenTBer]

I was listening to WGR550 out of Buffalo in the 90s once (for Bills updates) and I heard one of the funniest call-ins I ever heard on a radio station: "(heavy sigh) I am so sick and tired of these Toronto fans with their mullets and Leafs jerseys tucked into their Jordache jeans listening to their Saga music coming to our games."

I'll never forget this exact quote.

Lmao that is fantastic

 

[shortfuze]

They do take faceoffs in the defensive zone but don't penalty kill much. That's not what they are paid for. They are paid to score and they do that very well.

OK. maybe their not paid to do that because they arent good at doing it. where as Matthews and Marner are pretty good at it and play a good 2 way game. a little hard to score goals when youve been asked to help more in the defensive zone. however i think both matthews and marner need to focus more on production. hopefully tre brings in more defensive mindd players that can kill penalties.

 

[Ports]

I didnt post it

I know that. I meant why would the players post their picture of them golfing online but I later read that someone else may have posted it without their knowledge.

 

[ITM]

The Pulpit Club is a private course & dining room.

It's probably as private a club as you'll get, and they were quite north west of the city as well.

It’s an hour from North York, and it’s golf. That’s my point; It’s tone deaf.

Edit: ACC’s howling; Well isn’t it?

 

[Tak7]

It’s an hour from North York, and it’s golf. That’s my point; It’s tone deaf.

They're allowed to live their lives though.

We can't criticize them for wilting like cheap flowers under the pressure of the market, and then criticize them for not cowering in their penthouse apartments for weeks after their season ends.

 

[kevsh]

End result is the Oilers lost and looked horrible doing so. Yes they outplayed Dallas for 2 periods and looked good doing so. But the Leafs outplayed the Panthers in game 3 for 75% of the game and took at 3-1 lead at the beginning of the 2nd. That got them no where.

McDavid and Drai have lead the way I agree. But their play defensively has been horrible. Plus they don't kill penalties where Matthews and Marner did. And did well at it.

I dont know whats worse, having your best players produce but letting in 6 goals in a loss where they were leading and let 5 goals in the 3rd. Or losing a game, a tight game or for that matter winning a tight game where your best players are not producing???

Pick your poison. But to me both outcomes equally suck and star players have let their teams down. Lets not make Edmonton better then Toronto based on points from their star players. Overall game people.

The big difference:

In 2024 Edmonton won more playoff series (3) than the Leafs have in the past 9 years combined. This year they've matched it and the playoffs are still going.

Now let's compare Draisaitl & Matthews career layoff totals:
Draisaitl: 86 GP 47 G 127 PTS 1.49 PPG
Matthews: 68 GP 26 G 59 PTS 0.87 PPG

We can do Connor & Mitch too if it helps?

Simply put, there isn't a GM on this earth that if given the choice between McDavid & Draisaitl for a playoff run vs. Matthews & Marner, would take the Leafs duo.

So all that stuff about blown leads, they don't kill penalties, preferring which type of loss over the other is just silly talk. The Edmonton pair are on a different planet than our guys.

 

[ITM]

They're allowed to live their lives though.

We can't criticize them for wilting like cheap flowers under the pressure of the market, and then criticize them for not cowering in their penthouse apartments for weeks after their season ends.

Oh absolutely.

But if you’re the butt of an annual springtime joke, rather than confirm your judgment to be skewed…Do you know what I mean?

Like agree to meet in Nunavut in two weeks to woefully meditate on surfacing narwhal or something.

 

[Tak7]

Oh absolutely.

But if you’re the butt of an annual springtime joke, rather than confirm your judgment to be skewed…Do you know what I mean?

Like agree to meet in Nunavut in two weeks to woefully meditate on surfacing narwhal or something.

There's a larger discussion to be had here about just how little they actually care about fan perception, and whether they should in the first place.

Years ago, I would have suggested that fans aren't due anything.

But when you lose the way they do, and roll up to locker cleanout day the way they do, and say the same things every year, and barely utter a single utterance of anything that resembles an apology?

That's how you end up with those mutinous scenes that we saw in the third period of game 7 - the mob have had enough, and I still don't think it actually registers for a lot of these guys.

 

[SprDaVE]

Oh absolutely.

But if you’re the butt of an annual springtime joke, rather than confirm your judgment to be skewed…Do you know what I mean?

Like agree to meet in Nunavut in two weeks to woefully meditate on surfacing narwhal or something.

It's just golf between friends. Who cares where it is and how it's perceived. Looks like a nice private golf club close enough to their home and respective families. Why would they go somewhere so far away. Probably their last outing before they go back home and do their thing in the off-season.

 

[Ianturnedbull]

any atom bomb sightings?

 

[ToneDog]

I mean it was game 1, just like against the panthers where the leafs big guys put up multiple points...

Agree but they then went to sleep for most of the rest of the series. I can't see 97 and 29 playing as poorly for the rest of the series.

 

[JKG33]

End result is the Oilers lost and looked horrible doing so. Yes they outplayed Dallas for 2 periods and looked good doing so. But the Leafs outplayed the Panthers in game 3 for 75% of the game and took at 3-1 lead at the beginning of the 2nd. That got them no where.

McDavid and Drai have lead the way I agree. But their play defensively has been horrible. Plus they don't kill penalties where Matthews and Marner did. And did well at it.

I dont know whats worse, having your best players produce but letting in 6 goals in a loss where they were leading and let 5 goals in the 3rd. Or losing a game, a tight game or for that matter winning a tight game where your best players are not producing???

Pick your poison. But to me both outcomes equally suck and star players have let their teams down. Lets not make Edmonton better then Toronto based on points from their star players. Overall game people.

Sure the Oilers lost, but as usual McDrai pulled more than their own weight (I hope no Oiler fans read me talking nice about them). The difference is the rest of their shit ass team let them down.

In Toronto its the opposite. Not a world beating group but a very solid defence core and goaltending duo. Its the overpaid stars letting the team down. If you swapped Matthews Marner Nylander for McDrai this is probably a SCF team. Because the rest of that Oilers roster is so bad they only go as far as those two will take them. And theyre doing it in the much tougher conference

 

[JKG33]

OK. maybe their not paid to do that because they arent good at doing it. where as Matthews and Marner are pretty good at it and play a good 2 way game. a little hard to score goals when youve been asked to help more in the defensive zone. however i think both matthews and marner need to focus more on production. hopefully tre brings in more defensive mindd players that can kill penalties.

Its not like Matthews and Marner's playoff production dropped when they started being asked to kill penalties and handle defensive minutes. They were always playoff disappointments.

Their defensive play is also hilariously overrated by Leaf fans and media. If they played in Columbus nobody would notice them

 

[WillNy29]

Agree but they then went to sleep for most of the rest of the series. I can't see 97 and 29 playing as poorly for the rest of the series.

No I think games 1-3 they were good leading a 2-1 lead; game 4 was a bit of a toss up in my opinion, they were god awful in game 5 and 7 and I think Game 6 was the best defensive game this team has played in a long time culminating with Matthews scoring the game winner; its moot though an L is an L and they lost. 97 and 29 were pretty bad in games 6 and 7 last year in the finals too so its definitely possible they do it again but we'll see, dallas is not an easy out in my opinion.

 

[WillNy29]

legit question. does Mcdavid and draisaitl play much penalty killing or take faceoffs in the defensive zone? not sure if you know, was just curious.

I mean no top line had as many Dzone starts as the leafs by a country mile, it makes a difference.

 

[ITM]

It's just golf between friends. Who cares where it is and how it's perceived. Looks like a nice private golf club close enough to their home and respective families. Why would they go somewhere so far away. Probably their last outing before they go back home and do their thing in the off-season.

True enough. It’s been what…3…4 days since Game 7.

I can see how golf between friends who happen to be on the Leafs, shouldn’t be a concern about public perception about the same type of apathy and cross purposes in defining moments where sacrifice is expected and needed.

That’s what being oblivious entails. But you’re right. It’s a nice place.

 

[ToneDog]

Its not like Matthews and Marner's playoff production dropped when they started being asked to kill penalties and handle defensive minutes. They were always playoff disappointments.

Their defensive play is also hilariously overrated by Leaf fans and media. If they played in Columbus nobody would notice them

Just more excuses for 16 and 34. They got by early thanks to 88 and 67, but when their production dried up, other than Matty's game #6 goal, they both sucked. IMO the Panthers did not wake up until going down 2-0 in game 3. Once they upped the physicality, the owned the Leafs. I was surprised they took their foot off the gas in game #6. How else does one explain that game sandwiched between 6-1 wins a SBA?

 

[Trapper]

any atom bomb sightings?

Our next president/Coach/GM.

The guy riding the bomb is also named after our upcoming draft prospects: Slim Pickens.