CHL players that are going NCAA

[qcal1427]

Big Ten doesn't care about hockey. And despite rumors every couple years, there is basically zero momentum behind adding any teams.

Yep I know we go through this almost every year but there's literally no incentive for any NCAA school to add a D1 hockey team unless a Terry Pegula or Donald Mullett says they'll give you $100M to start one

 

[landy92mack29]

The Val D’or game. I’m from Michigan and a U of M fan and don’t really care about NCAA hockey. I’ll throw on a game from the Q instead on turning on BTN to watch Wisconsin vs Penn St.

Yup especially if the QMJHL+OHL join the WHL in making it free on Victory+. The only reason I've ever watched a NCAA game was for my cousin, a Avs prospect or draft eligible prospect which the common fan would only watch for the first reason I gave.

 

[Fyodorov]

The Val D’or game. I’m from Michigan and a U of M fan and don’t really care about NCAA hockey. I’ll throw on a game from the Q instead on turning on BTN to watch Wisconsin vs Penn St.

I think you're in the very small minority on this one.

 

[Blue and Green]

No one thinks that. But yes, in general it will be significantly harder to get a D1 scholarship in hockey now for those American players that play bottom 6 or bottom pairing.

This has been timed in lockstep with the scholarship limit increase to 26 from 18. Getting a scholarship shouldn't be any more difficult for a lower-tier American recruit than it has been. Getting playing time, yes, that might be more difficult at the schools that can afford the increase in scholarships.

 

[2Mototik2]

So do you think the person from Coutts, Alberta will be more likely to watch a Nebraska-Omaha vs Michigan Tech game, or a Val d'Or vs Charlottetown game? My point is hopefully the exposure spreads to Canada and NCAA hockey can garner the fan from Coutts Alberta.

TBH, neither and that's kind of my larger point.

It could spread, but I would not bet the house on it spreading in any meaningful way. But that's neither here nor there and I personally don't want to muck up this thread anymore.

 

[Kingpin794]

I think you're in the very small minority on this one.

My point being, there isn't going to be a lot of cross pollinating of fan bases. NCAA people will watch NCAA and probably only glance at the CHL to check for possible prospects. CHL folks will watch CHL and check in on former players in the NCAA from time to time but thats it.

 

[The Shadow]

This seems to be really bad for the CHL and the CHL fans but great for the players to have more options

If I was McKenna I would go to Michigan too

 

[Saxon Eric]

 

[TheBeastCoast]

Something that hasn't been talked about...I feel like this change might help the Canadian World Junior team in the long run as there will be less talent needlessly pushed into the NHL early just because they are a cheap ELC. Someone like a Benson for example...rather then getting rushed into the NHL at 18 goes south and plays NCAA and actually gets to participate in the World Juniors.

 

[kyle44]

Something that hasn't been talked about...I feel like this change might help the Canadian World Junior team in the long run as there will be less talent needlessly pushed into the NHL early just because they are a cheap ELC. Someone like a Benson for example...rather then getting rushed into the NHL at 18 goes south and plays NCAA and actually gets to participate in the World Juniors.

Agreed. I also think the Canadian NCAA players will benefit from the speed of the NCAA game. Regardless if they've won gold, I've always admired the pace the USA teams have played with at this event the last decade or more; whereas, I've found many Canadian players are surprised by how quickly they have to make decisions/move the puck relative to their experience in junior hockey. Playing against older, faster, players with less time and space will help them at the U-20 and in adapting to pro hockey.

 

[Bonin21]

This has been timed in lockstep with the scholarship limit increase to 26 from 18. Getting a scholarship shouldn't be any more difficult for a lower-tier American recruit than it has been. Getting playing time, yes, that might be more difficult at the schools that can afford the increase in scholarships.

Wrong. When I say "getting a scholarship" I meant getting any support. They blend the 18 over almost the whole team, and for a lot of young hockey players getting any scholarship to play D1 is a huge honor.

So yes, it'll be harder to get on rosters and therefore harder to get any form of scholarship. But those that can make it will have the benefit of the full ride at the schools that opt in, which will not be every D1 hockey program.

 

[NTDP]

Agreed. I also think the Canadian NCAA players will benefit from the speed of the NCAA game. Regardless if they've won gold, I've always admired the pace the USA teams have played with at this event the last decade or more; whereas, I've found many Canadian players are surprised by how quickly they have to make decisions/move the puck relative to their experience in junior hockey. Playing against older, faster, players with less time and space will help them at the U-20 and in adapting to pro hockey.

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[Blue and Green]

Wrong. When I say "getting a scholarship" I meant getting any support. They blend the 18 over almost the whole team, and for a lot of young hockey players getting any scholarship to play D1 is a huge honor.

So yes, it'll be harder to get on rosters and therefore harder to get any form of scholarship. But those that can make it will have the benefit of the full ride at the schools that opt in, which will not be every D1 hockey program.

There are plenty of opt-in schools. Sounds as though most opt-in programs are going to increase to 22 scholarships; ASU has said that it will move to the max 26 which means that its entire roster will be on full rides. D1 hockey on the whole will be offering plenty more scholarships next season than they did in this past season.

 

[Bonin21]

There are plenty of opt-in schools. Sounds as though most opt-in programs are going to increase to 22 scholarships; ASU has said that it will move to the max 26 which means that its entire roster will be on full rides. D1 hockey on the whole will be offering plenty more scholarships next season than they did in this past season.

The number of American hockey players that will get $1+ to play college hockey will decrease. You can see why that could be a bit of a bummer for folks.

 

[Hockeyville USA]

The number of American hockey players that will get $1+ to play college hockey will decrease. You can see why that could be a bit of a bummer for folks.

Not a bummer for me: get the best players into NCAA Hockey. If that makes the NCAA 60% Canadian, that's fine by me as long as we see more talent

 

[Bonin21]

Not a bummer for me: get the best players into NCAA Hockey. If that makes the NCAA 60% Canadian, that's fine by me as long as we see more talent

Sure the quality will go up and be fun to watch. I wonder what the percentage non-Americans is for all the D1 men's sports. I'm guessing golf and tennis might be up there but hockey might already have the highest and will get significantly higher.

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

Something that hasn't been talked about...I feel like this change might help the Canadian World Junior team in the long run as there will be less talent needlessly pushed into the NHL early just because they are a cheap ELC. Someone like a Benson for example...rather then getting rushed into the NHL at 18 goes south and plays NCAA and actually gets to participate in the World Juniors.

Might also force Hockey Canada to not devalue NCAA players year after year in their selections. If enough of them are there, can they really continue to ignore them?

 

[terrierguy11]

Might also force Hockey Canada to not devalue NCAA players year after year in their selections. If enough of them are there, can they really continue to ignore them?

Is anything going on with James Hagens? Is he being devalued by the Canadian hockey teams?

 

[NTDP]

Is anything going on with James Hagens? Is he being devalued by the Canadian hockey teams?

James Hages is an American.