What is the reasoning that the NCAA doesn't allow players who have played in the CHL to play college hockey?
CHL-NCAA Eligibility Question
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Mountie said:
NCAA compliance is extremely complicated. The reasoning you are searching for is not unique to just hockey players although there are now different rules for specific sports and you should refer to NCAA.org for specifics. In short the CHL is considered a pro league by the NCAA, hence, CHL players are considered professionals and not eligible to play NCAA without first going through an appeal process which includes penalties before getting re-instated or declared eligible. Biggest stumbling block seems to be that there are players playing in the CHL that have signed professional contracts and are receiving bonus money while playing in the CHL which is a definate no-no. My understanding is that the CHL prefer to be considered a pro league to keep players from jumping ship to the NCAA. In fact back in the early 70's major junior players were eligible to switch leagues and to prevent this from happening the CHL introduced weekly paychecks which have not gone up significantly to make their players ineligible for the NCAA. You may get many differing views on this one but my understanding is that it was done totally to keep players in the CHL and not to offset their expenses.
In short, they think CHL is "pro" hockey. Therefore if you play pro hockey you cant go back to NCAA.
It can be summed up in a simple phrase: CHL players get paid. The teams pay the players a certain amount, I think it is a weekly amount, and a small amount but nonetheless since they are getting paid to play hockey they lose their amateur status and any NCAA eligibility. The NCAA is VERY strict on eligibility rules and college athletes cannot accept anything from anyone. You could use your eligibility over someone buying you a cup of coffee. So needless to say, CHL players getting paid far exceeds their fine line between being amateur and professional or semi-pro.
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To be eligable for the NCAA you can not accept any form of compensation for playing your sport. Not even prize money in a competetion can be accepted, or any commercial endorsements. They can teach lessons and get paid for that. And they can go to a professional tryout, but if they want to stay for more than 48 hours the player must pay for everything themselves, hotel, food, etc.....the pro team cannot pay the bill, or they lose eligibility.
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ktownhockey said:
No worries.
Think about it though. 50 bucks for 7 days. That is, 7 bucks a day. Not exactly tons of money. That buys them 1 meal a day.
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La-La-Laprise said:
yeah its not at all.... alot of my friends have played in the OHL and guys I used to play with and they say it's awesome... but you can get pegged down if you dont get the chance to play top 2 or 3 lines early..
the 100 cheque every two weeks doesnt really cut it..
their billets however get money to buy groceries.. at least with the frontenacs they do... (so iam sure everywhere else does lol)
ktownhockey said:
Its standard OHL practice that the team pays all billiting expenses. The players equipment is of course provided for by the team, so other than spending money, these players really don't need a whole heck of alot.
Overagers are of course a different matter. It is not uncommon to see a team pay for rent and other living expenses (if the player chooses not to live with a billet) as well as up to 400 dollars a month living allowance.
The truth of the matter is that various Junior A leagues across Canada pay their players. The NCAA isn't to concerned with this as most of it is under the table money with a wink here and there. The NCAA considers CHL players pros becasue they can be drafted and signed by NHL teams and then returned to the Major Junior ranks to play.
Also worth mentioning that I don't believe has been covered in this thread is that you CAN in fact make the jump from major junior to NCAA you just lose eligibility depending on how long you played in the CHL. Lee Goren is an example of this.
La-La-Laprise said:
Not that they actually buy thier own food though. Most of the Kids are fed by the billet familys they live with. The 50 bucks is simply "spending" cash for most, if not all, of them.
Tiki said:
Yeah but when they are at school and want to buy something, it call comes out of their own pockets.
And yes the Billets get money from the Team to pay for groceries, etc.
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