I don't mean to be a Debbie Downer unless a CHL team builds a $50 million dollar training facility it won't hold a candle to the Big Ten schools, BC, or the best in North Dakota. There are so many schools with solid training facilities the CHL will have to invest a lot of money. Good luck to them!
Well some of the comments act as if the NCAA has been king forever.
This is where it's going to be interesting. Right now 90 percent of the roster's from Minnesota and the other players are from Canada and the rest of the country. IMO, Minnesota will recruit two types of CHL players, elite first round NHL picks and Canadian goalies otherwise it will be interesting to see if I'm wrong.
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Partially agree. US colleges will collect a lot of guys who have aged out of junior. The top guys will either stay in junior for their year 18 or be one and done in college, if they have graduated high school and can get into a college. Imo this is all great news for the players. CHL (best option for 16-19 year olds) and then USA colleges after that. Top guys head to the nhl.
You have thought this through. The support staff is where they are head a shoulders above many junior teams. People seem to forget the support staff has many different teams in these schools. So if something isn't working a support staff will gladly step in and help a player. At these big time schools its a team effort. They want all their rosters to succeed and not just football, basketball or in this case hockey. The facilities are world class at North Dakota and Minnesota to name a few, we are talking NHL ready facilities. This is big time now and the modern era is upon us for the CHL and D1.
IMO, London would have a hard time against Minnesota, Michigan and the rest of the Big Ten who had the best young talent in the NCAA. Minnesota and Michigan each had 16 and 15 NHL drafted players on their roster.
With all due respect I have a hard time believing 10 teams starting a D1 team within 5 years. I would love that but I'm not holding my breath. Good luck to them but I don't see it.
Exactly and Minnesota just finished their upgrade. They spent a lot of money on new facilities to be on par with North Dakota. The whole Big Ten is world class.
It's going to be difficult spending money on better facilities than North Dakota and Minnesota and others. Minnesota has everything you need and has a support staff not just for men's hockey but all the teams in the school. They all help each other and the weight room guy has won 21 Big Ten championships in 21 years. It's not really fair when Minnesota recently built a $129 million dollar sporting facility for all their teams. The nutrition experts these schools have are cutting edge.
In theory this sounds like a great idea until the NCAA kindly push players to the USHL.
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How many high school kids do US college clubs have on their roster? (Rhetorical) of course college clubs will be too strong for junior teams. Even though the CHL clubs likely have more elite talent it’s boys vs men. This is one of those silly apples vs oranges comparisons.
Agreed, only Minnesota kids play high school hockey and soon we won't see the best Minnesota kids playing high school anymore. I expect them to play in the USHL or CHL going forward where the boys vs men don't exist. We are in a new modern era where the best 19 to 24 year old player will play D1 before bypassing the AHL and going directly to the NHL.
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Sorry friend but the best 19-24 year olds will be in pro hockey making money. It will be the ECHL, and lower level guys in US college hockey in that age group.
Oh okay, I didn’t know that. Thanks. I did think it was odd that Harvard was listed as one of the finalists. Maybe they truly are on his list, but it’s nearly guaranteed he's going to be a one and done and taking on a Harvard course load in your DY seems counterproductive. I think Denver, if any school, would be the ideal spot for him. Culture of winning and success, a lot of Canadians there over the years, elite coaching with Carle.
I recall an interview clip from Celebrini saying that he didn't receive any interest from some of the big name schools, don't remember which names, and I have to imagine that him being a presumed one and done may have played a factor in that.
I admitted earlier in this thread to not knowing much about NCAA hockey but that has to be a consideration from some of these coaches. Sure they could get a hotshot name from the CHL in their D+0 or D+1, but is their team in a position for a young player to potentially only play one year or are they better suited to build for a year or two out? Same with the CHL now, is it better team construction to have a great young player for a shorter time or build for a couple years in the future with players who might not be as good, but they'll be around for longer.
Regardless of if you follow the CHL or NCAA (or both) as a fan and not just as prospect watching, it's going to be a fascinating watch seeing team construction.
Will always be kids like McGoriaty that are tweeners in being too dominant for NCAA as a JR but clearly not good enough for the NHL who need to play in the AHL.
While NCAA is great, all of the stuff that makes them superior to what a CHL can offer (off ice), the same applies to 2/3 or more of AHL clubs, unless they are sharing facilities with their NHL parent club.
I don't expect Hershey, Rochester, Providence, Grand Rapids, WBS, etc. to compete facilities wise to the top NCAA programs.
But, some kids will have to put the time in the A before they get to the NHL.
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At the end of the day, D1 college is just another development feeder path to the NHL for players to stop by. Whether thats for 1 yr or 4-5 yrs depends on a multitude of factors. I'd say that given the type of players that have been coming out of there the past decade on a more consistent basis now, along with D1 facilities and training/dev faculty means its a tried & true proven route now. Its about to get higher level with CHL players flooding in.
I'd say for Penn State, even if they only get guys like McKenna, Misa or Martone for 1 year (if they get any of them at all), the fact that their program is competing to recruit these type of players now when they've only been in D1 hockey for 12~ yrs shows how much the landscape has changed everywhere, and the opportunities both D1 programs and junior players everywhere will have.
Other than having chicks hunt you down 24/7. Which cannot go understated to 18-21 year olds.
I think one positive issues in college is a lot of the best teams recruit based on kids staying 3-4 years and building a culture with an older team . If you look at past winners - Western Michigan , Quinnipiac , umass , minny duluth that makes them very competitive . Let’s face it lot high end kids are there for themself and our 1-2 and done and move on quickly without winning a championship . Look at Michigan , you keep losing guys to pros early - big ego transfer portal guys with lot of flash and no substance . Look at North dakota always recruits high end - now trying high Canada market but recruiting high end guys have really gotten them nothing last 10 years . Then you have only one puck so somebody got to play third line , can a high end freshmen bide his time with 10-12 min a night without calling his agent crying lol . USA college has been unbelievable because of the culture of older teams ( they play for the team ) verse high end skills teams with flash but not lot show for it . All USA kids dream about playing college hockey that’s their end result . It will be interesting because the Canada kids culture coming to play college which for them looks like just stepping stone( selfish reason ) to the pro level . I think after couple years it might revert back to more normal things where Canada kids come to USA but lot of them stay . I think college coach will revert back to USA kids who will stay 3-4 years and Canada kids stay home more because that’s where they dreamed of playing verse some USA college .
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Having lived in CHL cities, university cities and without either...I would say that there have been females everywhere, and more than a fair share of ones that "are really interested in athletes".
McKenna down to PSU and MSU, but the walmart wolverines on this board have said he is a Michigan lock for months
I get that, but the social interaction at college campuses are like no other. Its not just another weekend out in Toronto
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Top athletes quickly form relationships with the assurance of never being left (unless the woman is equally renowned).
The McLeod and Co. affair isn't going to encourage the new generation to accumulate women for one night stands.
It's likely that most guys already have a deep history with teenage love.
The McLeod and Co. affair isn't going to encourage the new generation to accumulate women for one night stands.
It's likely that most guys already have a deep history with teenage love.
The Big Ten, North Dakota hockey, BC and others have world class $130 million dollar facilities, nutrition experts and support staff across all the rosters in the universities.
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This might be hard to believe...but there are Universities at most of the towns junior teams are in. The whole girl chasing angle online always comes off as a really weird conversation anyways. Like a bunch of random ass people on the internet trying to play out fantasies in their own mind through these prospects lmao
