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David Suzuki said:
makes total sense for the players to go this route but…

it also seems like a bad thing for the development of the sport in the only country that really cares about the sport and therefore the overall health of it to this fella.
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More Canadians (even non NHL ones) move south, meet an American girl at college, student visas become work visas, get married, have American babies, enroll them in hockey, push more for rinks, more youth teams, etc. their sons become future American hockey players. Hockey world gets more tapped into the greater population and wealth of the United States. Call it "Project 2050" or whatever. Hockey wins.
 
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Canada Hockey has to ban than from competing for the World Juniors. They signed a player contract to play in the CHL then finish it. Having season tickets and they make the decision now after the ticket season renewals is shameful for them they new prior to the first round of the playoffs they were leaving as the Harbourcats owner was talking about it. Shameful. Mckenna will be next by the end of the week after Memorial cup. It is not better facility wise, it is for the possibility of the money, The worse part is they are to stupid to know the rules that they can not collect money from NIL unless they are signing with a big company like Nike with international ties, They break their Visa rules if they endorse a company and show up on US Soil. Very Poor advice from their agents it is clear as say and Zack Edey consecutive NCAA MVP was shut out on deals. Only Mckenna when he signs with Michgan I guess he can make Millions. The CHL will become a feeder team now for the NCAA because they failed to act quickly, Reschney and Verhoeff thank you for abandoning your fans who sunk their souls in to you the last couple of seasons. Have fun with the money and showing young hockey players it is all about greed,

post on sportsnet - lol 2 whl kids just signed with North Dakota
 
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jtechkid68 said:
Canada Hockey has to ban than from competing for the World Juniors. They signed a player contract to play in the CHL then finish it. Having season tickets and they make the decision now after the ticket season renewals is shameful for them they new prior to the first round of the playoffs they were leaving as the Harbourcats owner was talking about it. Shameful. Mckenna will be next by the end of the week after Memorial cup. It is not better facility wise, it is for the possibility of the money, The worse part is they are to stupid to know the rules that they can not collect money from NIL unless they are signing with a big company like Nike with international ties, They break their Visa rules if they endorse a company and show up on US Soil. Very Poor advice from their agents it is clear as say and Zack Edey consecutive NCAA MVP was shut out on deals. Only Mckenna when he signs with Michgan I guess he can make Millions. The CHL will become a feeder team now for the NCAA because they failed to act quickly, Reschney and Verhoeff thank you for abandoning your fans who sunk their souls in to you the last couple of seasons. Have fun with the money and showing young hockey players it is all about greed,

post on sportsnet - lol 2 whl kids just signed with North Dakota
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What are we doing here? Reschny is graduating HS now and just moving up a level developmentally to get ready for pro because he has that option now. Verhoeff accelerating is surprising, but he also wants a bigger & better challenge to get him ready for pro. 90% of this has nothing to do with NIL/money.

We gotta start realizing that the CHL isn't better than the NCAA like it used to be, & with the rule changes, plenty of CHLers (including elite guys with junior eligibility remaining) were going to go to the NCAA because it's a step up. It wasn't just going to be overage guys aging out who previously went to USports or the Coast.
 
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AlternateSideParking said:
It actually wasn’t. USA average age was 24 — 4-5 years younger than the other powers. I counted eight players of college age and two were the top scorers. 2002s and up are college age for hockey players.
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Definitely hyperbole lol just say it was a young team...which it was. It was not a team full of "school aged boys" unless young professional athletes are now children lol
 
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Everyone is quite dramatic. Amateur hockey is not the mini NHL. These kids are not cattle and are not confined to a place just because they were passed around in a draft and adults were “counting on them”. BC lost Will Smith who they likely hoped was going to be on their team. It hurt their chances at a national title. It is what it is, he was ready to go pro and life goes on. Sure junior hockey fans think they ought to get some kinda cyclical nature that mirrors nhl teams, unlike the feedback loop of top college hockey teams, but it’s not a crazy realistic outcome going forward with amateurs that have more options now.
 
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The NCAA will emerge considerably stronger, and NCAA roster spots will be limited, especially since many NCAA teams are unattractive. The NCAA teams that concentrate prospects are limited to around twenty.

Many players will be rejected from NCAA camps or cut during the season.

USHL is an excellent league. Many U19 and U20 players will be selected, despite the fact that players could play in the NCAA.

NCAA will remain a league overwhelmingly composed of players between the ages of 20 and 24.

Agreements are multiplying, but only the best, and much more often U20s than U19s (U18s will remain a rarity), will play in the NCAA.
 
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Guessing Martone - I think by the end of the summer could have 10-15 first round CHL 2007-2008 kids committing or playing in college . The CHL guys are in complete denial because it will continue to grow every year is my point . USA college hockey just got dramatically better and deeper . It will hurt the marginal USA kids but in reality it will make college hockey so strong that over the long term should help USA hockey because we got the best youth league by far . In 5-10 years the biggest development league to the NHL will be college hockey with CHL any USHL basically turning into midget hockey feeder to the real league - college hockey !
 
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jtechkid68 said:
Guessing Martone - I think by the end of the summer could have 10-15 first round CHL 2007-2008 kids committing or playing in college . The CHL guys are in complete denial because it will continue to grow every year is my point . USA college hockey just got dramatically better and deeper . It will hurt the marginal USA kids but in reality it will make college hockey so strong that over the long term should help USA hockey because we got the best youth league by far . In 5-10 years the biggest development league to the NHL will be college hockey with CHL any USHL basically turning into midget hockey feeder to the real league - college hockey !
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How is NCAA hockey getting flooded with Canadian kids good for USA hockey? It is good for the NCAA for sure. Not the same thing. I think the development of Canadian players gets a big boost...but Hockey Canada likely doesn't love it domestic league getting hit like this either.
 
TheBeastCoast said:
How is NCAA hockey getting flooded with Canadian kids good for USA hockey? It is good for the NCAA for sure. Not the same thing. I think the development of Canadian players gets a big boost...but Hockey Canada likely doesn't love it domestic league getting hit like this either.
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I think it's great for the overall sport, considering more kids going NCAA should lower the bust rate a bit. Sure, you'll have to wait a bit longer to see guys get to the NHL, but that's probably better.
 
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Any team that isn't in the NHL should not feel entitled to prospects staying for more than one season. That is simply the reality of not being the final stop in the pipeline and not offering financial security. That CHL franchises and fanbases developed an attitude that kids are beholden to playing for them for multiple years is an accident of history.
 
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Hockeyville USA said:
I think it's great for the overall sport, considering more kids going NCAA should lower the bust rate a bit. Sure, you'll have to wait a bit longer to see guys get to the NHL, but that's probably better.
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I do think it is better for player development in general. The overall depth of talent in the NCAA is going to rise...so we will likely see more programs that haven't traditionally been powers in hockey emerge going forward as just from a numbers game...all these Canadians coming in, the roster spots on the teams aren't expanding. So players are going to have to filter out. I just don't think this is a win for either Canadian or American hockey...it is a fundamental change in the NA hockey pyramid, certain leagues will be effected more then others. CHL wise, I think you will see more of a separation between the top programs and the bottom programs. If you are running a good program in the CHL you will probably have an easier time at the very least having kids defer their time in the NCAA. If you are one of the bottom feeders kids have a much more clear exit plan now.
 
coooldude said:
One Victoria Royals fan POV on how NCAA pathway has changed the team outlook significantly. People who didn't see how significant this might be were not patient enough. However... A new CHL-AHL-NHL transfer agreement would change it again.

Post in thread 'D Keaton Verhoeff - Victoria Royals, WHL (2026 Draft)' D Keaton Verhoeff - Victoria Royals, WHL (2026 Draft)
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AHL deal is not going to save this. NCAA wins.
 
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Bonin21 said:
AHL deal is not going to save this. NCAA wins.
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AHL deal is not going to revert this, and NCAA will still benefit, but totally disagree that a clean pipeline within NHL control from CHL-AHL-NHL and back down will also significantly impact how prospects move. For example, from Sharks POV: in a world where NCAA is an option, Musty probably plays there this year, but in a world where <20s can move to/from AHL-CHL, he probably heads to SJ Barracuda instead of an NCAA program that isn't in Sharks control.

In that world, Verhoeff and McKenna still likely go NCAA, but does Lindstrom? He might stay in the system post draft. These guys currently wait to sign their ELCs but the very top prospects could go AHL at their team's request ASAP after draft.
 
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