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LeProspector said:
Seems like the USHL and BCHL are the ones getting absolutely f***ed with this agreement. CHL/NCAA are thriving because of it.
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USHL will be fine, they simply will not have the high end talent they once enjoyed but will still be considered a feeder league to the D-1 ranks. I don't think I can say the same with respect to the BCHL, as they may very well be in deep trouble.
 
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Corso said:
USHL will be fine, they simply will not have the high end talent they once enjoyed but will still be considered a feeder league to the D-1 ranks. I don't think I can say the same with respect to the BCHL, as they may very well be in deep trouble.
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Wouldn't this be true for all Junior A leagues?
 
PistolPete said:
May this induce a limit on Americsn players? It is after all- in theory- meant to be a developmental league for Canadian talent.

And I'm not sure Canadians would be as open to a roster full of non-Canadoans at thr junior level as we are at thr pro level
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Nope.

Talent is all the CHL is worried about. CHL fans don't care where the players are from. Sure there are still old school types that will cry about the loss of good ole canadian boys on the roster but they are a very small subsection of fans.
 
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PistolPete said:
Wouldn't this be true for all Junior A leagues?
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USHL offers more than most Junior A leagues in terms of resources. They may not be able to fully compete with what CHL clubs can offer but they remain a free to play league, unlike most Junior A leagues. The league also has deep connections to all D- 1 programs and has markets that, for the most part, can sustain operations without being heavily subsidized by either rich owners or player fees (and often both in pretty much all Junior A leagues). As a result, the USHL will remain a prominent feeder league to D-1.
 
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Corso said:
USHL will be fine, they simply will not have the high end talent they once enjoyed but will still be considered a feeder league to the D-1 ranks. I don't think I can say the same with respect to the BCHL, as they may very well be in deep trouble.
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The USHL is in way more trouble than the BCHL. The BCHL will just get the CHL players who get cut from their CHL team or younger kids who the CHL team thinks would be better to get big minutes vs small role
 
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landy92mack29 said:
they'll still be decent but are losing a lot of americans and won't get any canadians basically
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Think of it this way; yes they will lose most of the NHL bound players (and the majority of those who will be drafted) but they will still retain a sizable group of players that will have the talent to play D-1 hockey by the time they are 20. In short, the league will look a lot like what the NAHL or even the BCHL have looked like before this rule change.
 
Corso said:
Think of it this way; yes they will lose most of the NHL bound players (and the majority of those who will be drafted) but they will still retain a sizable group of players that will have the talent to play D-1 hockey by the time they are 20. In short, the league will look a lot like what the NAHL or even the BCHL have looked like before this rule change.
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It'll look like a better BCHL, plus still having the NTDP, unless that erodes
 
landy92mack29 said:
The USHL is in way more trouble than the BCHL. The BCHL will just get the CHL players who get cut from their CHL team or younger kids who the CHL team thinks would be better to get big minutes vs small role
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The USHL is sanctioned hockey, that means registered players under USA Hockey and Hockey Canada playing in that league can play at international tournaments and those organizations players have protections and transfer payout fees should a team from a competing hockey federation/league try to take a player from their roster during the season. The BCHL left the CJHL and Hockey Canada and has no protections and no sanctioning as an independent league. Their teams dont have anywhere close to the funding or developmental facilities that the USHL does and with both of the two largest developmental and monetarily profitable orgs in Penticton and Chilliwack leaving for the WHL and the USHL & USAH finally securing a subsidy deal with the NHL, its not going to ever surpass the USHL as a path to D1 or pro hockey and the chance to compete with them is gone. The high end CHL cuts and non-CHL AAA/Prep players will just go to the USHL for 1-2 yrs instead.

The BCHL took a gamble on their dream and with this CHL/NCAA ruling it totally blew up in their face. They're truly fk'd unless they go crawling back to Hockey Canada in complete capitulation.
 
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landy92mack29 said:
The USHL is in way more trouble than the BCHL. The BCHL will just get the CHL players who get cut from their CHL team or younger kids who the CHL team thinks would be better to get big minutes vs small role
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Unless they are from Western Canada, kids won't prefer the BCHL to the USHL. The USHL always has been, and will continue to be a significantly stronger league than the BCHL.
 
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PistolPete said:
May this induce a limit on Americsn players? It is after all- in theory- meant to be a developmental league for Canadian talent.

And I'm not sure Canadians would be as open to a roster full of non-Canadoans at thr junior level as we are at thr pro level
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Considering that there are American based teams and they just expanded the Euro roster limit, I would think a limit is slim bordering on none.
 
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Trump proposes 15% limit for Harvard for international student - eventually hockey is coming - plus most CHL students are short term players and got question their academics because their first thought wasn’t high end USA college . i get it USA college are in panic mode but it will eventually blow up on them because mainly most are flat out dumb .
 
jtechkid68 said:
Trump proposes 15% limit for Harvard for international student - eventually hockey is coming - plus most CHL students are short term players and got question their academics because their first thought wasn’t high end USA college . i get it USA college are in panic mode but it will eventually blow up on them because mainly most are flat out dumb .
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They'll just lower their standards

Universities are a financial racket . They want the $$$$$$
 
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Corso said:
USHL offers more than most Junior A leagues in terms of resources. They may not be able to fully compete with what CHL clubs can offer but they remain a free to play league, unlike most Junior A leagues.
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USHL is not a “Junior A” league which is a Tier 2 hockey Canada league designation. It exists outside that umbrella. It’s as much a a “Junior A” league as MHL or Swedish J20.
 
jtechkid68 said:
Trump proposes 15% limit for Harvard for international student - eventually hockey is coming - plus most CHL students are short term players and got question their academics because their first thought wasn’t high end USA college . i get it USA college are in panic mode but it will eventually blow up on them because mainly most are flat out dumb .
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What is proposed will most likely not become reality. Fortunately for us, the judiciary remains independent and the constitution still matters. You may dream all day and night about caps on foreign born players, but that's all you're doing, just dreaming about things that will never come to pass.
 
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