CHL Can Now Play NCAA - Changes Everything

[Hockeyville USA]

I think they will have to as well in order to get more players to go the CHL route.

However, if it is the case that a lot of players presently looking towards the NCAA are ineligible, I wonder how much that will impact all the CHL players that are currently in the league. Even if they still haven't finished high school or aren't looking at post-secondary for another year or two, are they retroactively facing potential issues because they may have not done it correctly?

They'll probably have to spend another year in junior finishing their core requirements and the NCAA will give some sort of exception period to make sure future student athletes are eligible

 

[Hazy Little Thing]

I think there are going to be a lot of surprised people on this site when (if but looking more likely now) the House Settlement is implemented and all third party deals (collectives) have to be disclosed if they are above a 600 dollar value.

Obviously you’re aware states are getting ahead of this

 

[Corso]

Obviously you’re aware states are getting ahead of this

Yes, hence Trump's threat of an executive order to grant the NCAA anti trust protection, which of course would be unconstitutional and would further embroil the NCAA into the political climate of the day. This Oregon bill, however, is what is going to spur Congress to take action on this matter.

U.S. senators discussing potential federal bill to regulate college sports

Five U.S senators have met several times over the past six weeks in serious negotiations over drafting a federal bill to regulate college sports compensation.

www.sportsbusinessjournal.com

The fact that this is a bipartisan effort has given the NCAA hope (for the first time in a long while) that things may finally begin to move. Trump's threat of an executive order may supercharge it.

The current business model is unsustainable and most schools know it. The only alternative is going to be collective bargaining with the athletes, meaning they will be employees for all intent and purpose.

 

[kyle44]

Luke Misa to Penn State. Michael next?

 

[terrierguy11]

Luke Misa to Penn State. Michael next?

Wow... Have to imagine Michael is going to commit there as well pending he cant play in the NHl next year.

 

[Hockeyville USA]

 

[goavsblue8]

Wow... Have to imagine Michael is going to commit there as well pending he cant play in the NHl next year.

Michael must be planning on being in the nhl if he didn’t announce with Luke

 

[kyle44]

Michael must be planning on being in the nhl if he didn’t announce with Luke

He could be waiting to discuss his situation with his NHL prior to making a decision.

 

[Hockeyville USA]

Michael must be planning on being in the nhl if he didn’t announce with Luke

Could be, but could be waiting on the advisement of the NHL team who drafts him. Boston or Chicago could tell him to go to the NCAA for a year, while San Jose or Nashville could just decide to sign him right away.

 

[Corso]

Penn State making moves...one of the better 05's available in the CHL.

 

[Corso]

Could be, but could be waiting on the advisement of the NHL team who drafts him. Boston or Chicago could tell him to go to the NCAA for a year, while San Jose or Nashville could just decide to sign him right away.

I really wouldn't expect all that many top eligible players making a decision until after the draft.

 

[Corso]

A California kid playing for Shattuck's....was a 2nd round pick of Dubuque in last year's USHL phase one draft. Was originally drafted by Seattle in the U.S. Dub draft but recently traded him. Will be a highly sought after college commit.

 

[Hockeyville USA]

A California kid playing for Shattuck's....was a 2nd round pick of Dubuque in last year's USHL phase one draft. Was originally drafted by Seattle in the U.S. Dub draft but recently traded him. Will be a highly sought after college commit.

Screams Denver kinda guy. Maybe Arizona State

 

[Favin]

Meeting NCAA eligibility criteria is extremely easy. Anyone not currently meeting it typically just needs like one summer worth to get where they need to be. Happens all the time with European college basketball players since in Europe guys are usually not pursuing school when they pursue sports, so sometimes there's a bit of work to get them back on track if they are now looking at NCAA Sports.

There are two parts to this. One is meeting academic standards, such as taking right curriculum, grades, test scores, etc. That is what most people think of with NCAA eligibility. That is fairly simple, but unlikely to be issue here.

The second is proving those those standards have been met. This later part can be tricky. Each recruit has to be a 'certified amateur' in order to be eligible. The NCAA's certification progress looks at student submissions, transcripts, schools comments and the school's accreditation. High schools that often send kids to NCAA have relationships with NCAA and makes for easier path as these schools are known entities. Furthermore, NCAA does not begin their certification process on any individual athlete until an NCAA coach requests it. They have limited investigative resources, so they want to keep it to legit D1 recruits only.

So there may be kids from Canadian High Schools that have never been through process with NCAA. That adds a layer of scrutiny and slows things down. Also, many of these players from juniors may not be on NCAA radar yet. So if a coach doesn't request their 'amateurism certification' from NCAA, the players won't yet meet eligibility requirements. (In the states, many kids will get this latter part done by end of 11th grade, even if they plan to defer and play a year in juniors, so that they can partake in showcase events and other recruiting events).

Its unlikely that all the players caught up in system are there due to poor grades, test scores.

The first year of changes will always be the slowest.

 

[WarriorofTime]

So there may be kids from Canadian High Schools that have never been through process with NCAA. That adds a layer of scrutiny and slows things down.

There are so many Canadians participating in the various NCAA sports that are out there across the various levels that it'd be surprising if any schools large enough to say, be a school that players on a large junior team would attend, don't have at least a little bit familiarity or experience with NCAA certification process.

 

[Favin]

Regarding Luke Misa to Penn State...I wouldn't read too much into it for his brother. If anything, I think this means Michael is less likely to be going NCAA route. The path had been clear for Michael (and maybe Luke) at another school. If Michael has decided against playing NCAA, then that may have freed Luke up for his own path at Penn State.

 

[Bonin21]

It does mean, however, that in the small chance he does go NCAA it will be PSU. So fans of all other schools can now put that slim chance out of the equation.

 

[Favin]

There are so many Canadians participating in the various NCAA sports that are out there across the various levels that it'd be surprising if any schools large enough to say, be a school that players on a large junior team would attend, don't have at least a little bit familiarity or experience with NCAA certification process.

Its more about NCAA's familiarity with the schools. If they are schools that send kids through every year, then it probably is not the hold up...as that speeds things up. An example is at top prep schools, and even some bigger public schools, they have staff whose job it is to work on this issue. If its a smaller school in US that doesn't send many kids to D1, it can be slower process.

And the athletes still need a coach to request certification.

 

[Favin]

It does mean, however, that in the small chance he does go NCAA it will be PSU. So fans of all other schools can now put that slim chance out of the equation.

Yeah, I suppose that is probably true.

Other part of it: we could see that spot at a certain New England school get filled up with another big announcement (coming any minute now).

 

[MTU34]

Well then

 

[wetcoast]

Is this really that big. He has aged out.

 

[WarriorofTime]

So Pegula donated like $100 Billion for Penn State to have a D1 hockey program fifteen years ago. Now Penn State Hockey is supposedly throwing out big NIL offers. It's probably not a bad guess to think the Pegulas are funding a lot of that too. NIL is basically the wild wild west, but certainly feels "wrong" if an NHL Owner is also dropping big bags on the doorstep of 'amateurs'

 

[goavsblue8]

So Pegula donated like $100 Billion for Penn State to have a D1 hockey program fifteen years ago. Now Penn State Hockey is supposedly throwing out big NIL offers. It's probably not a bad guess to think the Pegulas are funding a lot of that too. NIL is basically the wild wild west, but certainly feels "wrong" if an NHL Owner is also dropping big bags on the doorstep of 'amateurs'

Theres rules against this(pro league not ncaa rules), nfl and nba owners have had to step away from nil because of it. Zero shot its pegula

 

[Bonin21]

Is this really that big. He has aged out.

What...

Yeah, I suppose that is probably true.

Other part of it: we could see that spot at a certain New England school get filled up with another big announcement (coming any minute now).

Minutes, or days, or weeks... Thought we'd get something today if your inside info was right

 

[Corso]

Theres rules against this(pro league not ncaa rules), nfl and nba owners have had to step away from nil because of it. Zero shot its pegula

Many backdoors to funnel money under the table so to speak so you never know.....

Another high end U.S. born California kid to the Dub....