CHL can now play NCAA - change everything !

Leviathan899

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Chicago Steel made the playoffs last year. Projected to do again this year.

That's like as good of a "down stretch" as it gets. No franchise can sustain being one of the few best every year. If the "down years" are still respectable, that almost says as much about a franchise as the best years.

And they've pulled in a bunch of big recruits in that stretch (Hage, Valentini, Croskery, Cloutier, Parsons, Pardue, Lapointe, Schultz, Sawchyn).
Charles Pardue is considered a big recruit? He’s never produced at the junior level. Chicago has a good program and culture, stemming from the Ryan Hardy days.

Donovan McCoy (2004 RHD out of the O) commits to Providence College
This is a great committment, he’ll be a top pairing guy right away. This is the type of player collaboration I envisioned it being, same with Mangone, Parsons, Whitehead, etc.
 

Pavel Buchnevich

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Charles Pardue is considered a big recruit? He’s never produced at the junior level. Chicago has a good program and culture, stemming from the Ryan Hardy days.
He's a big recruit for a junior hockey team. Was part of the NTDP. Getting those guys to then play for you in the USHL is always big for the USHL teams.

Obviously not the type of NHL superstar (probably likely not even an NHL'er) you might hope for, but plenty of good junior players amount to nothing in the pros.
 

frontsfan67

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Gotta think the CHL put the games in London and Oshawa for a reason- there is probably not 2 better rinks to go to and now these NTDP guys can come over
 

Leviathan899

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You are comparing a lot of 1 and done players to a system where Quebec/Halifax will get 4 years out of each tender.

Under a tender system, Quebec would have Ethan Gauthier, Tomas Lavoie, Caleb Desnoyers and Maddox Dagenais on their roster regardless of where their pick was (possibly Masse instead of Lavoie).

Over the same period, Halifax would have Peddle, Lavoie/Masse/Poirier, Guite or Morin, and Tynan Lawrence.

Quebec would give up picks 12, 18, 20, and 4 for these guys while Halifax would give up picks 6, 11, 19, and 15 for the top guys though a tender system.

While it is a different approach, it dramatically favors the top teams in a league where they get years of control.
You’re both making solid points, I enjoyed this back and forth.
 

Pavel Buchnevich

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Gotta think the CHL put the games in London and Oshawa for a reason- there is probably not 2 better rinks to go to and now these NTDP guys can come over
I mean, the NTDP players that played today are already committed to play college. Wrong crowd to attract. The players they may want to recruit are like 14 or 15, and not yet at the NTDP. Most of the NTDP players have committed to play college hockey by now, and they aren't going to consider the CHL, especially without being able to go NCAA at 17 or 18.
 

frontsfan67

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I mean, the NTDP players that played today are already committed to play college. Wrong crowd to attract. The players they may want to recruit are like 14 or 15, and not yet at the NTDP. Most of the NTDP players have committed to play college hockey by now, and they aren't going to consider the CHL, especially without being able to go NCAA at 17 or 18.
I mean come over before college, no USHL, NAHL, OJHL, BCHL etc
 

WarriorofTime

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I mean, the NTDP players that played today are already committed to play college. Wrong crowd to attract. The players they may want to recruit are like 14 or 15, and not yet at the NTDP. Most of the NTDP players have committed to play college hockey by now, and they aren't going to consider the CHL, especially without being able to go NCAA at 17 or 18.
They can delay their commits and play CHL
in between. Most of this year NTDP isn’t really good enough to play college next year.
 

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