CHL can now play NCAA - change everything !

Bonin21

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Off the top of my head: MHL, Czech u20

Edit: Finnish u20, etc. it’s pretty much the standard
So it's easier to make the changes at the NCAA level. If you come in as a freshman 3 years after you graduate HS, you sacrifice one year of eligibility.

Or if this 5 years of eligibility thing goes through:
If you come in 3 years after you graduate HS, sacrifice 2 years of eligibility
If you come in 2 years after you graduate HS, sacrifice 1 year of eligibility
 

Corso

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Compare that to the freshman class of the average college student and then you see why it’s a big problem.

NCAA should be for 18-22 year olds, if they are going to be affiliated with these colleges. If not, go affiliate yourself with some professional sports teams.

The Big10 (hockey conference) actually tried to introduce and forward a motion about five years ago limiting freshmen eligibility to U-20 players and entirely eliminating the 21 year old freshman. USA Hockey, the USHL, the various Canadian Junior A circuits all balked at the idea, as did numerous other college programs and the idea was shelved.

The latest court ruling on Juco Football eligibility ensures that this idea will never see daylight again. The NCAA will indeed become a predominantly 20-25 year old circuit .

This of course is exactly what the CHL wants.
 

Kingpin794

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So it's easier to make the changes at the NCAA level. If you come in as a freshman 3 years after you graduate HS, you sacrifice one year of eligibility.

Or if this 5 years of eligibility thing goes through:
If you come in 3 years after you graduate HS, sacrifice 2 years of eligibility
If you come in 2 years after you graduate HS, sacrifice 1 year of eligibility
I'd assume you would want USPORTS in Canada to also make it so you can't be a 21 year old freshman?
 

jtechkid

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Compare that to the freshman class of the average college student and then you see why it’s a big problem.

NCAA should be for 18-22 year olds, if they are going to be affiliated with these colleges. If not, go affiliate yourself with some professional sports teams.
its a joke and college coach dont care at all because if they did it would change . they have been talk about reducing age by 1 year . just think how much it hurts these kids starting workforce at age 25 where buddy been working 2-3 years ahead of you .
 

Kingpin794

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its a joke and college coach dont care at all because if they did it would change . they have been talk about reducing age by 1 year . just think how much it hurts these kids starting workforce at age 25 where buddy been working 2-3 years ahead of you .
You legitimately have concerns about these older NCAA players with regards to their work future after hockey? These kids are typically already coming from the upper end of the socioeconomic ladder. With that comes safety nets and opportunities not normally associated with the average person. Delaying their entrance into the 9 to 5 work force by a couple years is nothing. You work for 40-45 years. What's 2 or 3 in the grand scheme of things? They'll have plenty of connections made by the time they are done with hockey that it won't matter that they are 24/25.
 

jtechkid

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Same idea in USHL. Just get rid of it.

19 years old or younger on June 1 (or September 14 to allow for 2 post draft seasons) of upcoming season. Boom, good to go.

Then you don't have to worry about the limit of 3 thing, either.
Thats it ! not that hard !
 

bigdog16

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its a joke and college coach dont care at all because if they did it would change . they have been talk about reducing age by 1 year . just think how much it hurts these kids starting workforce at age 25 where buddy been working 2-3 years ahead of you .
Being able to put on your resume that you were an NCAA D1 athlete is significantly more valuable than 2-3 years of entry level work making entry level money. Over 40 years, 2-3 years of working is peanuts and these kids miss absolutely nothing by delaying their careers a couple years later. I know this from personal experience
 

Habsrule

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What are your opinions;

I’m a Kitchener Ranger STH and Jack Pridham was one of the first players to make the jump to the OHL from the BCHL before he started his commitment to BU.

Pridham has a stat line of 18-11-10-21 this year. He has been good but not dominant. He is 19 years old and was drafted #92 in the 2024 NHL draft by Chicago.

What do you think is better for a players development; staying an extra year in the CHL as an overage player and hopefully dominating or going to the NCAA as a 20 year old freshman and playing a depth role to start the season off.
 

jtechkid

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Not shocking but it will be interesting next 3-5 years . i would think the Q would love to expand to the state too which would really help them .
 

WarriorofTime

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Wonder if Canada will give some more thought to NCAA players. With CHL guys being NCAA eligible, not trying to stop their best guys from going to NCAA as teenagers is likely something that they should be giving a bit more thought to. The WJC results ebb and flow, but I don't think we'll see a scenario where USA doesn't have at least like 85 % of the roster made up of NCAA players as some predicted when indicating that anyone who plays in CHL will be so enthralled with the facilities and roar of junior hockey crowds in places like Bathurst, New Brunswick that they'll sign their ELCs and never play NCAA Hockey.
 
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Pavel Buchnevich

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The issue for USHL is that CHL leagues are willing to play them earlier. Bent would’ve likely never went the CHL route if TC was giving him games this year. Midway through the year and not playing any games? Okay, he ditches that option.

You can’t expect them to stay patient forever. That’s virtually the same for how Waterloo lost Reid.
 

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