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CHL allowing 3 Euros.
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Mrfenn92
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Fwiw.. I'd be fan with zero euros allowed in North America before the age of 20. Stay home. Go to NHL directly if you can. Go to AHL as a 19 year old if good enough.
Hockeyville USA
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I had a theory that this might a potential result of the CHL now being NCAA eligible: lose some talent a bit earlier than expected, open up another import spot & try to get another talented import over, boost your roster.
Yeah I was thinking the same
Kingpin794
Smart A** In A Jersey
Between this possibly and more Americans, the Don Cherry crowd won't be happy.
In all seriousness, seems like a good idea. If the CHL plans on expanding, they'll need to expand their talent pool accordingly
In all seriousness, seems like a good idea. If the CHL plans on expanding, they'll need to expand their talent pool accordingly
FourQuarters
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I think even if they don't go to North America, some of Czechia or Slovakia players won't "stay home" too. There're Fin/Swe leagues. Going to America at least allows them to adapt North America earlier.
Bubbles
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I don't mind it. Hopefully there will be some better recruiting and tapping into other European nations for talent.
TheKingSlayer
He was in the way!
TheBeastCoast
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I think the landscape being opened up and easier to move through is only a positive for player development overall. Let's players and their reps take a more hands on approach to development...and could allow CHL teams with more creative front offices new ways of staying competitive.
Hockeyville USA
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Yes, as long as they didn't sign a pro deal in Europe
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It is a good point but I'd be fine if they banned us too. Czechs leaving early is a big problem for us. And our U20 team is usually every league in the world.lol. NCAA, USHL, whl, qhl, ohl, extraliga, liiga and AHL. It's not good. Hrabal, blumel/benak/nestrasil, stancl/jecho, melovsky, sapovaliv, Sikora, kos and Kulich. As examples. Pasta a product of Sweden. Badinka a product of Sweden.
Why limit the player pool? Why prevent the league from being more talented and a better product? Why isolationism?
Jersey Fan 12
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May have asked you this before but why is it so many Czech and Slovak players are heading elsewhere (not just to North America) rather than playing in the domestic junior leagues. Are there too many teams, coaching issues or other factors? Twenty years ago the Czrch Republic had as many top players as any country.
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So the players all improve. When 3 Czechs take a spot in the whl.. that's three less Canucks on the team. Or less spots in USHL. Develop to 20. It's make the U18 and U20.better. i see it as improving.
Eg. When they banned Czech goalies from CHL I was all for it. Now they're back lol. This may be one of only a handful of things I'll ever agree on with Don Cherry.
I’ll never understand the punitive prohibitive player movement mindset. We all love hockey, why not shoot for the best product possible? Why limit movement? Seems xenophobic to prevent a Czech from playing in NA. Competition league to league encourages leagues to get better and more attractive, seems like a good thing.
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Our junior leagues are terrible. Our adult.leqgue has improved but is not good for young players. So if you are 18 and draftable.. your options are to play in a weak somewhat scouted Czech U20 league or sit on bench in extraliga.
It sucks. And it's a Czech problem created by Czech people just in case anyone thinks I'm blaming other nations and their leagues.
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You're calling me xenophobic? You are either American or Canadian.
PanniniClaus
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You are trying to balance the product with being what you ultimately are.. as massive domestic Junior League. People in these cities and more so the towns, love to see locals playing for their teams.
The goaltending move was to try and address an issue in Canadian goaltending but they ultimately gave that up as there just didn't seem to be enough to fill all the nets.
I am all for trying 3 and seeing what happens..
No, I’m saying what you wrote could be considered xenophobic/isolationist. I’m Swedish. I want Swedes to have free movement to wherever they can develop best. I don’t want to limit them to just our domestic leagues.
FourQuarters
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Boys need to think about their development and their entire careers, just as Sale went to the CHL during the D+1 season to get himself out of the CHL agreement and to play in the AHL this season, other kids who chose the CHL simply because it was the best of the options they had.
I don't live in North America, and I would love to see hockey developed evenly around the world so kids don't have to leave home too early to chase their dreams.
But hoping to ban what is best for kids is not good for player development on the reality of not being able to change the differences at the league level.
Kingpin794
Smart A** In A Jersey
Yeah a good CHL GM is worth their weight in gold because the import draft isn't truly a draft. It's about connections/relationships.
Also with the new NCAA rules, the Europeans playing in the USHL may chose to go to the CHL instead. The USHL has quite a few decent imports. Will be interesting to see if/when this 3rd import rule goes into effect, how many guys get selected from the USHL. It does happen a few times already.
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Have to ask are all the American and Canadian juniors banned from Europe? Of course not but they don't go. There is an imbalance. Only primo player I can think of is Matthews playing in NLA.
And the Matthews case is an interesting one due to his September 17 birthday, which is two days after the cutoff for him being considered old enough to be drafted in 2015 instead of 2016. He found a way to get a pro contract with the ZSC Lions once he turned 18, because if he’d stayed in North America his options were to continue in the USHL or play for the Everett Silvertips in the CHL. Maybe could have played a season of NCAA hockey but I don’t remember exactly on the specifics. He was able to go pro instead.
FourQuarters
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Nothing is totally balanced in the world, just like Pasta is playing in the NHL instead of Euro. Players just choose what they think is the best option, whereas North American players don't choose the Euro league simply because it's not the best option for their career.
Any ban would only reduce opportunities for Czech kids, as the Czech junior League is in a weak position compared to the CHL. That's what my point is.
I know it's not fair, but it's the reality of the situation.
