Speculation: Chicago scouting Colorado (5 straight games, GM in person today)

[Esq]

Could it implicate Chicago's 2025 unprotected 1st?

Doubtful

 

[paragon]

Agreed. He should be nowhere near the highest paid guy in the league, and it sounds like that's what he is looking for. But for fun,

Rantanen+Mittelstadt
For
Seth Jones+Teravainen/Bertuzzi+Hall?

Gives Bedard a guy to play with who has all the experience in the world, and can be a great second fiddle. gets rid of Jones, and they get a 2C.

Avs look at it as Jones@ 9.5>Mikko@ 13+ long term. Also gives them a couple forwards to replace those lost, one signed for cheaper than Mikko long term and a rental who can maybe be a bit of a driver on his own line better than Mitts seems to be for them?

Or maybe it's Mikko for Picks that they turn around and use elsewhere to fix the roster.

Why even trade Rantanen, if you don't get anything of value back in return? It's better to let him walk than take the cap hit of Jones.

 

[Mrfenn92]

Could it implicate Chicago's 2025 unprotected 1st?

No

 

[krutovsdonut]

it will be veteran top 6 scoring help for bedard. that is the obvious need.

 

[MileHIGHAvz]

Imagine MacKinnon, Drouin, and Jones all on the same team. 3 of the top 4 from the 2013 draft. Hockey is so weird sometimes.

We had 3 of the top 4 from the 2012 draft too, at different times albeit. And the most embarrassing part is they were all basically league minimum one year deals

 

[Jarvi]

Why even trade Rantanen, if you don't get anything of value back in return? It's better to let him walk than take the cap hit of Jones.

There is value there. Teravainen/Bertuzzi are at minimum great middle 6 guys, and one could pop off with Mack. Hall has the potential to be a much better driver of a line than Mittelstadt, though with his poor output this year maybe he is swapped and they get both of Turbo/Bert rather than him. I mostly picked him because of contract status, and because anytime I watch the Avs they don't look like they can push play at all without Mack or Makar doing it. Hall has shown he can do that in his career, without another star on his line.

And GM's will remember Jones as the minute munching, point producing D he was before he went to an Org that tore it all down leaving their few good players completely exposed. He is another guy that has a history of pushing play. There isn't a lot of better RD's available, so he will fetch more than many think imo.

Plus there is the whole thing with Mikkos contract. If they believe like I do, that he is a product of Mack more than a driver himself, is he worth 13m? Is that more or less of an overpay than a top 4 RD who can move up in a pinch and play all situations at 9.5? If you can replace 70% of Rants production at fwd, AND get a top 4 D for the same cost, I think it makes them deeper and better.

Maybe throw in some minor pieces to even it out, but I can see that being the bones of a deal with Jones holding more value than most expect.

 

[Dr Amazing]

Ivan Ivan for Marcel Marcel

 

[walkedpast]

Mackinnon for Bedard

 

[OilersFanatics505]

...based on...???...

Eyes

 

[BigDaddyLurch]

Eyes

...you might wanna clean them, then...

 

[Legion34]

...repetitive...





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I laughed. You got me with that one

 

[John Mandalorian]

Agreed. He should be nowhere near the highest paid guy in the league, and it sounds like that's what he is looking for. But for fun,

Rantanen+Mittelstadt
For
Seth Jones+Teravainen/Bertuzzi+Hall?

Gives Bedard a guy to play with who has all the experience in the world, and can be a great second fiddle. gets rid of Jones, and they get a 2C.

Avs look at it as Jones@ 9.5>Mikko@ 13+ long term. Also gives them a couple forwards to replace those lost, one signed for cheaper than Mikko long term and a rental who can maybe be a bit of a driver on his own line better than Mitts seems to be for them?

Or maybe it's Mikko for Picks that they turn around and use elsewhere to fix the roster.

This is terrible.

 

[Hattrick Kane]

Anybody know the scouts watching the game tonight? Donato and Hall have been great.

 

[Kevin Musto]

To Chicago:

-Ivan Ivan

To Colorado:


-Wyatt Kaiser

 

[ColbyChaos]

Could it implicate Chicago's 2025 unprotected 1st?

Why the f*** would it include that lmao

 

[razor ray]

Ivan Ivan for Marcel Marcel

Best trade proposal all year. Well done.

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

Agreed. He should be nowhere near the highest paid guy in the league, and it sounds like that's what he is looking for. But for fun,

Rantanen+Mittelstadt
For
Seth Jones+Teravainen/Bertuzzi+Hall?

Gives Bedard a guy to play with who has all the experience in the world, and can be a great second fiddle. gets rid of Jones, and they get a 2C.

Avs look at it as Jones@ 9.5>Mikko@ 13+ long term. Also gives them a couple forwards to replace those lost, one signed for cheaper than Mikko long term and a rental who can maybe be a bit of a driver on his own line better than Mitts seems to be for them?

Or maybe it's Mikko for Picks that they turn around and use elsewhere to fix the roster.

That's laughably bad

 

[Jarvi]

This is terrible.

No, what's terrible is trading a young top 4 dman for Casey Mittelstadt. Or paying a winger who can't drive a line 14 million.

 

[Jarvi]

That's laughably bad

Nah. You just overrate Rantanen, at least you guys do on this board. I've seen the posts in your sub bringing up the same issues I am w regards to Rantanen, and the ones pining for Jones. He isnt gonna be retained and sold for scraps, how does that make any sense for Chi?

 

[Czechboy]

I feel like Ivan Ivan woiuldn't warrant this much attention? I get I love the kid and am rooting for him but 5 visits to scout Ivan who's been injured for the last few weeks and just got into his first game this week?

Ivan does have 3C potential and some offence. I'm not saying he's a dud.. but that seems like a small trade to even have a thread for till it actually happens. Other than the obvious Marcel Marcel jokes (if you aren't familiar, Marcel is a big boy!)