Value of: Chicago moving up from 18, into the top 10

[Kevin Musto]

Kyle Davidson is going big game hunting at the draft.

He's primed himself to move into the top 10.

Most of the teams picking top 10 are rebuilders, and thus won't trade down.

So who am I looking at?

1. Ottawa. They have the 7th overall pick. There's no team that loves to rush their rebuild more than Ottawa. Dorion isn't around anymore to take advantage of though.


2. New Jersey. They have the 10th overall pick. This is a team that wants to get back to being in the playoffs. Goaltending is a big weakness. As it turns out, Chicago has a goalie coming off a really solid season.


In addition to the 18th overall pick, what assets does Chicago have available to trade?

All of their picks!
-34th overall
-50th overall
-67th overall
-72nd overall
-Toronto 2025 1st round pick
-plus more!

Players:
-Petr Mrazek (New Jersey, I know you want him. He had a .908 SV% behind a putrid lineup. Very impressive.)
-Lukas Reichel (I'm desperate to offload this bum)
-Andreas Athanasiou
-Ryan Donato
-Connor Murphy

As you can see, incredibly enticing stuff. And it can all be yours for a top 10 pick!

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[Forge]

As a devils fan, don't have much interest in dropping that far back....but in theory I could easily work some stuff out if I had other moves in the pipeline.

 

[x Tame Impala]

We also have Toronto's 1st next year which could be interesting

 

[Kevin Musto]

We also have Toronto's 1st next year which could be interesting

Yup, good point, I'll add that to the asset list.

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

Kyle Davidson is going big game hunting at the draft.

He's primed himself to move into the top 10.

Most of the teams picking top 10 are rebuilders, and thus won't trade down.

So who am I looking at?

1. Ottawa. They have the 7th overall pick. There's no team that loves to rush their rebuild more than Ottawa. Dorion isn't around anymore to take advantage of though.


2. New Jersey. They have the 10th overall pick. This is a team that wants to get back to being in the playoffs. Goaltending is a big weakness. As it turns out, Chicago has a goalie coming off a really solid season.


In addition to the 18th overall pick, what assets does Chicago have available to trade?

All of their picks!
-34th overall
-50th overall
-67th overall
-72nd overall
-Toronto 2025 1st round pick
-plus more!

Players:
-Petr Mrazek (New Jersey, I know you want him. He had a .908 SV% behind a putrid lineup. Very impressive.)
-Lukas Reichel (I'm desperate to offload this bum)
-Andreas Athanasiou
-Ryan Donato
-Connor Murphy

As you can see, incredibly enticing stuff. And it can all be yours for a top 10 pick!

Hawks just extended Mrazek for two years

He is not being traded

Teams dont do that (Outside of Sens in past) to a player

 

[Kevin Musto]

Hawks just extended Mrazek for two years

He is not being traded

Teams dont do that (Outside of Sens in past) to a player

They do if it gets you a top 10 pick.

Hockey is a business.

 

[mouser]

Moving into the top 10 seems like a bridge too far for the Hawks.

 

[Junohockeyfan]

Don't see this being attainable. Hawks would have give up high-value picks/prospects to make this leap and that defeats the purpose.

 

[Djp]

18 to 7-12 requires A lot.not a bunch of picks.

 

[Kevin Musto]

Don't see this being attainable. Hawks would have give up high-value picks/prospects to make this leap and that defeats the purpose.

They have high value picks.

#18, #34, #50, and the Leafs 1st round pick in 2025.

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

Ya, none of this is even remotely interesting to a team picking inside the Top 10. Would be an easy no for all of those teams.

 

[Sanderson]

Kyle Davidson is going big game hunting at the draft.
He's primed himself to move into the top 10.

Based on what exactly?

1. Ottawa. They have the 7th overall pick. There's no team that loves to rush their rebuild more than Ottawa. Dorion isn't around anymore to take advantage of though.

Again, based on what exactly?

Ottawa didn't rush much at all. Sending a high pick for a youngish star-player who very much fits to the age of the core and who they hoped would stay long-term is not rushing things. That the player didn't want to stay is another matter, but the idea in itself was perfectly valid for the state of the team. It's not like they traded picks for players who would be useless once their core would be ready to compete.

 

[Peter Sidorkiewicz]

Would Blackhawks do Pick 18 + Kurashev for Pick 10?

I could see the Devils trading back trying to split the pick into multiple assets.

I like Reichel as a prospect too, but think Kurashev versatility in playing all 3 forward position would fit nicely on Devils. As well as the the current team's Swiss connection.

 

[HawksDub89]

I think they could go from 18 to 12-15. Getting inside the top 10 would be tough.

 

[Kevin Musto]

Would Blackhawks do Pick 18 + Kurashev for Pick 10?

I could see the Devils trading back trying to split the pick into multiple assets.

I like Reichel as a prospect too, but think Kurashev versatility in playing all 3 forward position would fit nicely on Devils. As well as the the current team's Swiss connection.

Yup

 

[DisgruntledHawkFan]

Would Blackhawks do Pick 18 + Kurashev for Pick 10?

I could see the Devils trading back trying to split the pick into multiple assets.

I like Reichel as a prospect too, but think Kurashev versatility in playing all 3 forward position would fit nicely on Devils. As well as the the current team's Swiss connection.

In a nanosecond Kurashev isn't very good.

 

[Drumman44]

In a nanosecond Kurashev isn't very good.

You guys need to stop devaluing our super valuable assets

 

[Mrfenn92]

Would Blackhawks do Pick 18 + Kurashev for Pick 10?

I could see the Devils trading back trying to split the pick into multiple assets.

I like Reichel as a prospect too, but think Kurashev versatility in playing all 3 forward position would fit nicely on Devils. As well as the the current team's Swiss connection.

Sure

 

[boredmale]

Fish don't fry in the kitchen, beans don't burn on the grill

 

[DisgruntledHawkFan]

Fish don't fry in the kitchen, beans don't burn on the grill

You can absolutely fry fish in the kitchen.

 

[boredmale]

You can absolutely fry fish in the kitchen.

Not if you are Movin' on Up like Chicago would in this deal

 

[StreetHawk]

Ya, none of this is even remotely interesting to a team picking inside the Top 10. Would be an easy no for all of those teams.

NHL is not NFL, where 2nd rounders have that much value given the timeline of their arrival in the NHL. 2nd rounders would typically spend 1-2 years in the A when they are eligible so arrive at 21-22 in the NHL. Unless your scouts feel confident about the players that are available at 18, hard to envision a drop of 8-11 spots in the draft for just picks.

Would need to involve a roster player, but there isn't much on the Hawks that would make sense that should fit what the 2 clubs would be looking for.

 

[x Tame Impala]

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Really cool write up on the success rate of draft picks across various parameters. Well worth the read if any of you have 10 minutes

 

[Junohockeyfan]

NHL Draft Pick Probabilities

Whenever an NHL draft is approaching, the excitement level and hype around the players go through the roof. It’s an exciting time for sure but it seems like most people don’t have realistic expectations when it comes to the draft. To help with that, I decided to

dobberprospects.com

Really cool write up on the success rate of draft picks across various parameters. Well worth the read if any of you have 10 minutes

Thanks for that link.

If i were to group the range of picks in terms of certainty, there is a significant drop off between picks 1-15 and 16-31. There is a 50% higher chance of success with picks 1-15 vs 16-31. There is also a noticeable drop off between picks 1-5 and 6-15 as you would expect.

With that data in mind, i can see why the Hawks want to break into the top-15 at a minimum.

 

[Golden_Jet]

Too far too jump 18, into the top 10, if they keep jumping 2-3 spots, might get there eventually.