BKarchitect
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Exactly as much as Zub, who's the better player...
Zub was 27. Vlasic is 22. You’re paying with the idea that this rookie (and team) have room to grow in his 22-28 age seasons.
Exactly as much as Zub, who's the better player...
More or less the Matthias Samuelsson deal - it feels like the right kind of bet.
His offense should increase proportionately to the Hawks actually having legitimate NHL forwards.
He has great vision and a great stretch pass, and also knows when to rush/join the rush. His skating is fantastic for a big body. He's also pretty damn good at getting his shot through for the forwards to tip and/or bang in rebounds. Once those, and his stretch passes and such start getting buried by legitimate top 6 forwards, his points will go up. I figure he'll be good for 35-40 points most years, with some higher years mixed in. Just my opinion.
He also sets himself up for a real nice payday at 28
Lots of people "watch" hockey while looking at their phones the whole gameLots of people watch hockey and have absolutely no clue what they're seeing...
We will see what the cap is at by then. By NBA standards, $7 million per year means you’re practically homeless.Maybe for something like 8 year, $56,000,000 contract
Whatever this reference is, over my headMaybe for something like 8 year, $56,000,000 contract
What odds on him putting up more offense? He's never been much of a scorer.
He could be the best player in the NHL this season (he wasn't) and I still absolutely hate these premature contracts. It's one season, minimal risk that Vlasic explodes into a 80 point d-man next season. There's nothing wrong with a bridge deal every once in a while.20k posts and still take like this about defensive defenseman, eh?
Guessing he’s referring to his cousins paydayWhatever this reference is, over my head
He actually was one of the best defensive D in the NHL(top 5) based upon analytics, as well as the eye test.He could be the best player in the NHL this season (he wasn't) and I still absolutely hate these premature contracts. It's one season, minimal risk that Vlasic explodes into a 80 point d-man next season. There's nothing wrong with a bridge deal every once in a while.
That is the contract Marc-Édouard Vlasic signed when he was about the same age, maybe just not that funny reference anyhow.Whatever this reference is, over my head
Pretty sure Alex is his nephewCrazy that Marc-Eduard played long enough to be in the league with his son
Understandable if you've never heard of him. 2nd rounder in 2019 who looked at most like a future bottom pairing guy up until this season when he realized he could use his long reach (he's 6ft6) and solid skating to constantly poke the Puck off sticks and kill plays before they ever develop.Literally have never heard of this player but that’s on me. Blackhawk fans seem to be thrilled so he must have shown something to get that deal. Time will tell but maybe a steal like Slavin and Pesce were for the Hurricanes back in the day
He was one of the best defensive dmen in the league as a rookie, the only way Chicago lost this deal is not getting the 7th and 8th year19 NHL points. Insane deal, I don’t care if he turns into Bobby Orr next year.
Damn… kind of sounds exactly like Slavin but bigger… by a lotUnderstandable if you've never heard of him. 2nd rounder in 2019 who looked at most like a future bottom pairing guy up until this season when he realized he could use his long reach (he's 6ft6) and solid skating to constantly poke the Puck off sticks and kill plays before they ever develop.
He played so well this year that some models have him as a top 5 shutdown defender; including an article by The Athletic that had him at 2nd best league-wide.
So just a really under the radar guy right now.
His skating is really goodDamn… kind of sounds exactly like Slavin but bigger… by a lot
How’s his speed/agility/skating overall?
Zaitsev will probably go back to Russia this summer. Tinordi will probably get another deal but will likely be waiver fodder. Murphy will definitely have another NHL contract. Megan will get another cheap deal, I would not be surprised if he ends up on Pittsburgh to pair up with Karlsson againTo be fair the disparity highlights that Chicago were icing four non-NHL dmen whenever Jones and Vlasic weren't on the ice. It's unlikely guys like Zaitsev, Tinordi, Murphy, or Megna are in the league when their contracts are up. Korchinski obviously wasn't ready defensively. Not that Vlasic isn't a solid dman, just comparisons to team mates are not great when half the team are AHLers.
Obviously shutdown D never really get paid too, and Vlasic's own cousin Marc-Edouard is a good example of why. This is a pretty fair value contract for the player Vlasic was this year, assuming no regression in the future as Chicago gets better top pairing options. There's no reason for Chicago to not take gambles like these with 77 million in cap space in the summer of 27.
Oh yikes, and I think he was on a similar contract to this leading up to that too lol. Maybe Chicago will have better luck and walk awayThat is the contract Marc-Édouard Vlasic signed when he was about the same age, maybe just not that funny reference anyhow.
Disagree, this is exactly what teams like Chicago with tons of cap space and no realistic ambition to compete for a while should do. Even if it's an overpay for the next year or two it could very well be a steal when they are turning a cornerHe could be the best player in the NHL this season (he wasn't) and I still absolutely hate these premature contracts. It's one season, minimal risk that Vlasic explodes into a 80 point d-man next season. There's nothing wrong with a bridge deal every once in a while.