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Over the volcano said:
Holy crap, that's intense. I've never heard of it for more than a month and even then it was just as a precautionary extension..
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There are a lot of scary antibiotic resistant bacteria people pick up in hospitals. Hera was at a surgery site, the first round of antibiotics was all intravenous all done at home, they leave the IV line in. The specific antibiotic changes over time but yeah it can be pretty wild.


Antibiotics are so common now but it’s understated how important they are in the history of humanity. It wasn’t too long ago that people routinely died at 30/40 years old. And so many children that never made it out of being toddlers.
 
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PB37 said:
I hope the McAvoy / Tkachuk injuries will make teams pause about sending their star players to these in-season tournaments in the future if them have them. I prefer if they never have them again.
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Which sucks cause honestly the tournament was really good. With how our season went, it even was the highlight of this year for me (hockey wise).
 
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Over the volcano said:
Holy crap, that's intense. I've never heard of it for more than a month and even then it was just as a precautionary extension..
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Yeah, pretty full on, poor guy. This Athletic article is paywalled (‘It cost me my season’: Charlie McAvoy on decision to play against Canada and scary infection details), but just going back to what we were talking about a couple of days ago, they asked Charlie about the source of the infection and he said the doctors have no idea. So we're none the wiser.

He also says he doesn't blame anyone for what happened, despite the whole thing hitting him pretty hard, as you'd expect. Maybe he's just being polite, and it doesn't change the fact that ideally the whole debacle should have been avoided, but FWIW, that's his public position.

I definitely think though there's a broader conversation to be had about the use of painkillers in sport, because despite improvements in medical practice, they're almost certainly still used and abused too often, and the consequences when it goes wrong can clearly sometimes be very dangerous. But how that happens I don't know.
 
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Aussie Bruin said:
Yeah, pretty full on, poor guy. This Athletic article is paywalled (‘It cost me my season’: Charlie McAvoy on decision to play against Canada and scary infection details), but just going back to what we were talking about a couple of days ago, they asked Charlie about the source of the infection and he said the doctors have no idea. So we're none the wiser.

He also says he doesn't blame anyone for what happened, despite the whole thing hitting him pretty hard, as you'd expect. Maybe he's just being polite, and it doesn't change the fact that ideally the whole debacle should have been avoided, but FWIW, that's his public position.

I definitely think though there's a broader conversation to be had about the use of painkillers in sport, because despite improvements in medical practice, they're almost certainly still used and abused too often, and the consequences when it goes wrong can clearly sometimes be very dangerous. But how that happens I don't know.
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Good read

"McAvoy’s condition was the result of a painkilling shot he took after the Americans’ 6-1 win over Finland on Feb. 13. It eased the discomfort of the shoulder injury he suffered that day and allowed him to play in the United States’ 3-1 win over Canada two days later.

But the injury, shot and infection came with a high price: a serious health scare and the Boston Bruins’ final 25 games. He was discharged from Mass General with a sling on his right arm and a peripherally inserted central catheter, or a PICC line, delivering medication to treat his infection. Last week, he finally concluded his regimen of antibiotics, which were so plentiful that they were given to him in a tub"
 
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Over the volcano said:
Good read

"McAvoy’s condition was the result of a painkilling shot he took after the Americans’ 6-1 win over Finland on Feb. 13. It eased the discomfort of the shoulder injury he suffered that day and allowed him to play in the United States’ 3-1 win over Canada two days later.

But the injury, shot and infection came with a high price: a serious health scare and the Boston Bruins’ final 25 games. He was discharged from Mass General with a sling on his right arm and a peripherally inserted central catheter, or a PICC line, delivering medication to treat his infection. Last week, he finally concluded his regimen of antibiotics, which were so plentiful that they were given to him in a tub"
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The details about the red streaks on his skin spreading from his shoulder down over his chest accompanied by intense pain are horrifying - proper nightmare stuff. Must have been a real mess in his shoulder to be on so many antibiotics and for so long. A freakishly nasty situation - no wonder he sounds so distraught by it all. Hope he's been getting some good mental health support.
 
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PB37 said:
I hope the McAvoy / Tkachuk injuries will make teams pause about sending their star players to these in-season tournaments in the future if them have them. I prefer if they never have them again.
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It is the league’s tournament. I seriously doubt FO’s and owners are going to go rogue and refuse to send players to a tournament put on by the league itself.

Also, look at how much it meant to McAvoy to be there (along with I am sure many others). Freak injuries can happen at any time. It doesn’t “resolve the problem” or the risk of injury if you don’t allow a player to play in certain games.
 
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CharasLazyWrister said:
It is the league’s tournament. I seriously doubt FO’s and owners are going to go rogue and refuse to send players to a tournament put on by the league itself.

Also, look at how much it meant to McAvoy to be there (along with I am sure many others). Freak injuries can happen at any time. It doesn’t “resolve the problem” or the risk of injury if you don’t allow a player to play in certain games.
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There were notable players who opted out of playing the tournament. So maybe not teams but players won't go because their NHL jobs are more important to them. I liked the hockey I watched during the tournament but it cost the Bruins their best dman. I'd rather he had gotten the injury playing for the Bruins rather than a tournament during the season.
 
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PB37 said:
There were notable players who opted out of playing the tournament. So maybe not teams but players won't go because their NHL jobs are more important to them. I liked the hockey I watched during the tournament but it cost the Bruins their best dman. I'd rather he had gotten the injury playing for the Bruins rather than a tournament during the season.
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Yeah of course we can say that’s what we want in hindsight. But what does the player want? And what’s actually “best” for the game? And the overall experience of hockey fans beyond just those whose interest is strictly on one NHL team?

His job is to play hockey. And he feels pride in representing his country doing it. It’s too bad he got injured and it took him out for the season outside of a regular season game (and surely hurt the Bruins to an unknown degree in terms of how they finished the year). But at the end of the day, it’s a game. In which you’re always at risk of getting hurt. Should players be denied the opportunity to play in any other tournament at any time because they could sustain an injury that impacts their NHL teams’ performance in the future? Is their sole identity as hockey players with their NHL club? Not in my view.

And full disclosure, I was never a naysayer on that tournament. But I was skeptical as to the quality of hockey it would produce. Turned out to be 100x better than I think almost anyone expected. I have a hard time saying it was at all a bad thing given what we witnessed even with the unfortunate result of the injury to McAvoy.

Would I feel differently if the Bruins were riding high this year and McAvoy got taken out for the year in that tournament? I can’t guarantee my answer would be the same, but I still feel like when looked at beyond my Bruins fanmanship, that tournament was a massive success and great idea by the league.
 
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CharasLazyWrister said:
Yeah of course we can say that’s what we want in hindsight. But what does the player want? And what’s actually “best” for the game? And the overall experience of hockey fans beyond just those whose interest is strictly on one NHL team?

His job is to play hockey. And he feels pride in representing his country doing it. It’s too bad he got injured and it took him out for the season outside of a regular season game (and surely hurt the Bruins to an unknown degree in terms of how they finished the year). But at the end of the day, it’s a game. In which you’re always at risk of getting hurt. Should players be denied the opportunity to play in any other tournament at any time because they could sustain an injury that impacts their NHL teams’ performance in the future? Is their sole identity as hockey players with their NHL club? Not in my view.

And full disclosure, I was never a naysayer on that tournament. But I was skeptical as to the quality of hockey it would produce. Turned out to be 100x better than I think almost anyone expected. I have a hard time saying it was at all a bad thing given what we witnessed even with the unfortunate result of the injury to McAvoy.

Would I feel differently if the Bruins were riding high this year and McAvoy got taken out for the year in that tournament? I can’t guarantee my answer would be the same, but I still feel like when looked at beyond my Bruins fanmanship, that tournament was a massive success and great idea by the league.
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IMO yes on all counts. Look at Zacha, playing injured as the year went on and is now opting out of the worlds tournament this year so he can heal. If it was the NHL playoffs, he would have continued to have played injured because the NHL and the team that pays his salary and committed to is more important.
 
Absolutely f***ing terrifying

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f***, that is frightening. I don’t see this type of tournament happening for a long time after the amount of injuries that took place.

It was great hockey. Don’t get me wrong. I went to USA/SWE. It was fun to watch. I don’t see how the owners let this be a common occurrence.

The Olympics will be an exception.
 
Freaking injury!!!! Mac will be the next Bruins captain. Book it.
Hope he recovers well and come back as Boston cornerstone next year.
 
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