Brewin8
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All good, makes sense now..
Also,
Listening to the Sportsnet590 clip of Elliot Friedman above, he states that the "Team USA Doctors" are actually the Minnesota Wild medical team ...that's not a conflict??
Player Discussion Charlie McAvoy V
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Also,
Listening to the Sportsnet590 clip of Elliot Friedman above, he states that the "Team USA Doctors" are actually the Minnesota Wild medical team ...that's not a conflict??
Brewin8
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McBrom7
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I would think it has to be haha. I wonder how that selection process even works.
Maybe a good compromise here is to have all medical staffs in the building from NHL teams represented in the game being played? So the NHL team's own medical staff can work on their own players. Keeps the 4 Nations alive and NHL teams mitigate risk?
Edit: just to make it clear that this is my opinion based on the information from Friedman.
Sounds like the Bruins are pissed that the Team USA doctor, who is the MN Wild’s team doctor, didn’t send him for X-rays/MRI which would have shown a more severe injury.
I’ve had a cortisone shot in my ac joint and it had to be done using ultrasound so the doctor didn’t miss the spot. I also had to wait until I had an MRI to have it done.
Sounds like the USA doctor screwed up and based on the video, other NHL teams are privately saying national team drs must be independent.
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The good thing is that you are fast asleep when they do it but yes, it’s f***ing painful. Had it done as part of my last ankle surgery.
I'm not sure what being independent or not has to do with it. The fact of the US doctor being the Wild's man could only be a problem if you were accusing him of bias. Which is a big call because you're then basically calling someone not just unprofessional but unethical. To me the basic need is to have someone who is as qualified and competent as possible. If that's an independent person, great, if it's an existing team doctor, equally great.
Doctors miss things all the time. Nature of the game, it happens. I'm also aware that Charlie was desperate to play for his country on home ice, understandably, so I highly doubt he was going around making a big fuss over his shoulder, quite the opposite, until the pain flared to unbearable levels once he was back in Boston.
That the Bruins are upset I get. But they have to just suck it up. Their medical team makes errors too. Shit happens.
BigGoalBrad
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Orr should have never played in the Canada Cup he really screwed over the Blackhawks playing more games vs the Soviets than he ever did for them huh?
I’m not making any accusations just simply giving my opinion on what possibly could have happened based on the interview with Friedman.
The team doctor for Team USA for the Olympics and other international tournaments has always been independent. My guess is that because this is an NHL tournament they agreed to use the Wild’s doctor bc the USA GM is also the Minnesota GM.
Bottom line here is something happened that cannot happen again and that an independent physician must be used going forward.
I'm not saying you were, but that's the logical inference if the doctor being a team employee is considered a problem.
Again, being independent only helps if it means the person will be more competent. And why should that be the case? What's the argument?
And much as I would agree that such things shouldn't happen, they can, they do and they will continue to happen. That's medicine. You just hope that they're as rare as possible.
BruinsFanMike82
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Just for fun(?), here's Grok's (Twitter's AI) speculation regarding McAvoy's recovery:
"In a best-case scenario, the Boston Bruins could expect to have a healthy Charlie McAvoy back in their lineup in mid-to-late March 2025. This estimation is based on the limited information available as of February 20, 2025, regarding his current injury—an infection in his right shoulder combined with a significant AC joint injury—sustained during the 4 Nations Face-Off tournament.
Reports indicate that McAvoy underwent an irrigation and debridement procedure on February 18, 2025, to address the infection, and he remains hospitalized receiving IV antibiotics, with his condition improving.
For an infection requiring surgical intervention and IV antibiotics, a minimum of 2–3 weeks is reasonable to ensure the infection is fully resolved and McAvoy can begin rehabilitation.
The AC joint injury adds complexity. Described as "significant" by the Bruins, it could range from a moderate sprain (Grade II-III) to something more severe, potentially involving a clavicle fracture or higher-grade separation (Grade IV-VI). A Grade II-III AC sprain typically heals in 4–6 weeks with conservative treatment, while more severe cases requiring surgery could extend recovery to 8–12 weeks. Since no surgery on the AC joint itself has been mentioned—only the infection procedure—a best-case scenario assumes a moderate sprain manageable with rest and rehab, aligning with a 4–6 week timeline.
Combining these factors, the infection likely dictates the initial recovery phase (2–3 weeks), followed by a brief rehab period for the AC joint, assuming it’s stable and doesn’t require further intervention. If McAvoy’s condition continues to improve rapidly and he avoids complications (e.g., recurrent infection or delayed AC joint healing), he could resume skating by early March and return to game action by mid-March—roughly 4–5 weeks from now.
Thus, in an optimistic scenario with swift infection resolution and a moderate AC joint injury, McAvoy could realistically rejoin the lineup around March 15–20, 2025. This assumes ideal healing, clearance from medical staff, and a short conditioning period. However, this is speculative without precise medical details, and any setbacks could push his return into April."
"In a best-case scenario, the Boston Bruins could expect to have a healthy Charlie McAvoy back in their lineup in mid-to-late March 2025. This estimation is based on the limited information available as of February 20, 2025, regarding his current injury—an infection in his right shoulder combined with a significant AC joint injury—sustained during the 4 Nations Face-Off tournament.
Reports indicate that McAvoy underwent an irrigation and debridement procedure on February 18, 2025, to address the infection, and he remains hospitalized receiving IV antibiotics, with his condition improving.
For an infection requiring surgical intervention and IV antibiotics, a minimum of 2–3 weeks is reasonable to ensure the infection is fully resolved and McAvoy can begin rehabilitation.
The AC joint injury adds complexity. Described as "significant" by the Bruins, it could range from a moderate sprain (Grade II-III) to something more severe, potentially involving a clavicle fracture or higher-grade separation (Grade IV-VI). A Grade II-III AC sprain typically heals in 4–6 weeks with conservative treatment, while more severe cases requiring surgery could extend recovery to 8–12 weeks. Since no surgery on the AC joint itself has been mentioned—only the infection procedure—a best-case scenario assumes a moderate sprain manageable with rest and rehab, aligning with a 4–6 week timeline.
Combining these factors, the infection likely dictates the initial recovery phase (2–3 weeks), followed by a brief rehab period for the AC joint, assuming it’s stable and doesn’t require further intervention. If McAvoy’s condition continues to improve rapidly and he avoids complications (e.g., recurrent infection or delayed AC joint healing), he could resume skating by early March and return to game action by mid-March—roughly 4–5 weeks from now.
Thus, in an optimistic scenario with swift infection resolution and a moderate AC joint injury, McAvoy could realistically rejoin the lineup around March 15–20, 2025. This assumes ideal healing, clearance from medical staff, and a short conditioning period. However, this is speculative without precise medical details, and any setbacks could push his return into April."
We don't need ai content here.
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He didn’t mesh with Pasta but Zacha does and Lindholm plays very well as season has gone on with Marchand
It all works well to moi ~ Zacha & Pastrnak are developing a knowing before it happens on the ice.
As for McAvoy
People like myself can rule out this guy is soft ever again
Mad-Marcus
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He doesn't play soft, he tough, but he's just brittle. Brittle people don't hold up long term. It's one thing after another.
That CAN-USA game was the best game he has played in a long while, and guess what, he's hurt again.
The infection can somewhat be blamed on the Med staff, but the Armia cheap shot did in the AC joint. How did they miss that.
That CAN-USA game was the best game he has played in a long while, and guess what, he's hurt again.
The infection can somewhat be blamed on the Med staff, but the Armia cheap shot did in the AC joint. How did they miss that.
Happened in the Finland game. Bad cross check. Gets buried into post. Grabs shoulder. The kid is not soft. I have two kids who had 3 shoulder operations while playing college hockey and lacrosse. What they went thru offseason and worse in game with “ fixed shoulders” was a tough look for a parent. Mac playing his game with that in his past is not brittle.
McBrom7
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Getting cross checked into a metal bar at the force he was will cause anyone injury unless they’re Superman. Brittle? Give me a break. The injury happened in the Finland game, not the Canada game.
Shut him down and let him heal up. Enjoy his time with Rhys. I’m glad Chuck is a Bruin. Sometimes he’s the only one on the team that plays pissed off besides Zadorov.
I’m honestly not sure how someone could watch his (hurt) performance in USA-Canada and infer they don’t want him on their team.
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McBrom7
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On a professionnel or civil responsabilité POV, an independent professionnel will IMO be more carefull than an employee. But regarding a doctor.... not that sure.
Ozzy Osbourne
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I wonder how it’s pronounced? Is it Rice or Reece? Odd spelling either way.Rhys is the name of his new born son
Interesting name, but cute kid.
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Can the NHL suspend Hab scum Armia for that?
After this, the Bruins should refuse to release they players for these tournaments going forward
After this, the Bruins should refuse to release they players for these tournaments going forward
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"Reese". Like Witherspoon. The spelling is Welsh.
Why as a professional and courtesy did the US Medical team not consult with the Bruins medical team knowing they have dealt with McAvoys injury prior to this happening.
Orr's knee was shot by then anyways, that is on Chicago, for signing him, there is no comparison.
Very English/Irish name. It’s become more popular over the years but still uncommon enough that you’re not going to get 6 of them in the same class.Rhys is the name of his new born son
Interesting name, but cute kid.
