Management Charlie Jacobs, Bob Sweeney and Cam Neely speak to the media from the Bruins Black and Gold Gala

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Those are two I wouldn't deal, Coyle and Carlo can pack up anytime.
Well if they get garbage offers for Coyle and not fair value for Carlo, then the complicated part of the trade deadline comes into play. Marchand guaranteed
gets a 1st and prospect from Colorado. Frederic keeps playing well he gets you probably a couple 2nd rounders from right team.

So maybe they give Marchand a guarantee on a contract and he comes back. This team is clearly not a Cup contender so if things don't go well by 4N they are going to have to look at all possible paths.
 
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The Jacobs are first and foremost business people and like any business they want to make as much money as they can, while doing the least possible. As long as there are fans filling the arena, buying concessions and merchandise, then why fire Sweeney and Neely? The only way this changes is if they miss the playoffs 2-3 years in a row and attendance starts to fall, that is what will prompt them for change. Get ready for Sweeney and Neely to be here a while yet. The last time they hired a new GM they just walked down the hall and promoted the next man up.
IMO they want to win the cup because that means more $$$. IMO winning the cup means more than $$ to Cam.

Everyone wants to win the cup. Too bad there are not just 6 teams anymore :sarcasm:
 
If we miss the playoffs these clowns keeping Poitras in the AHL for so long will be a big reason. Carlo still a Bruin is insulting Id trade him just for the cap space.
 
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If the Celtics are sold to someone who wants to and can build own place this could be a problem

However, right now the Celtics look more discombobulated than the Bruins

Hopefully Steve Pagliuca gets the team

Ratings down across the league - the team is boring as shit right now and not in sync

Hopefully this helps where I want it to go

I think having Charlie Jacobs own the team is a very good thing

Note to Donny S. All the best bro - hope you shoot your age in your twilight years but I’m beyond negatively 24/7…..50/50 I can do…..although I am a hardcore @quietbruinfan I admit I love hid takes they are amazing
 
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If we miss the playoffs these clowns keeping Poitras in the AHL for so long will be a big reason. Carlo still a Bruin is insulting Id trade him just for the cap space.
There was a reason

“I just feel more comfortable as a player compared to when I went down,” Poitras acknowledged on Tuesday morning at Warrior Ice Arena. “I just feel better overall. I just like being on the ice. I kind of found that love for the game again and it just makes you feel better when you get on the ice every day.”

Poitras’s time in Providence was a necessary measure for Boston’s most promising prospect in order to get back on track.
 

“We're gonna have to see where we are in the standings when teams start really fleshing themselves out,” Neely told reporters. “There's some teams right now that are bona fide sellers, and there's a lot of teams that are probably looking to buy. So, we're in the playoff picture right now. That could change, but right now we're in the playoff picture and we want to continue to improve as a hockey club, whether that's internally or externally.

“We’ll see where we’re at,” he added. “I think right now, we've gotta look at two paths: one that we're buying and one that we may be retooling a little bit. We still feel like we've got a playoff team here, and we certainly don't want to jeopardize getting out of the playoffs because we've made some moves that may be good for the future but not good for the present.”

Neely obviously isn't gonna come out and say that the team sucks and we're gonna sell while we're sitting in a playoff spot, and no one should expect that. But man I really hope they don't f*** up this deadline. They made two big swings in the offseason with Lindholm and Zadorov, neither has gone particularly well. They needed both of those to go perfectly plus have all of Zacha, Coyle, Geekie, and Frederic either repeat or improve on career years from last season to have a chance at real contention. Pretty much none of that is happening except for Geekie, I think he might be back on pace to match last season's output after his recent run of scoring. The level of offensive play driver you need to add to this team to turn it into a real contender will not be available at the deadline except maybe for Pettersson, but we likely don't have enough assets to really get in that conversation anyway.

Take a step back, recoup some assets by selling the older regressing guys, play the kids, and try to reload in the next couple offseasons.
 
IMO they want to win the cup because that means more $$$. IMO winning the cup means more than $$ to Cam.

Everyone wants to win the cup. Too bad there are not just 6 teams anymore :sarcasm:
I want that too, been a Bruins fan for over 50 years, but the fact this team has 6 cups in 100 years is sad, granted there were times when we had to face the dynasty teams like the Habs, Islanders and Oilers, other times we blew great chances like in 2019.
 
I want that too, been a Bruins fan for over 50 years, but the fact this team has 6 cups in 100 years is sad, granted there were times when we had to face the dynasty teams like the Habs, Islanders and Oilers, other times we blew great chances like in 2019.
I am a long time Bs fan too.

#1 on my bucket list is to see the Bs win the cup on home ice with me there. I am 72 and the expense of the tickets is wearing me down...Plus the ride to and from NH is OK for now...but I am old.

They had better hurry....and I know this is not the year
 
The Jacobs are first and foremost business people and like any business they want to make as much money as they can, while doing the least possible. As long as there are fans filling the arena, buying concessions and merchandise, then why fire Sweeney and Neely? The only way this changes is if they miss the playoffs 2-3 years in a row and attendance starts to fall, that is what will prompt them for change. Get ready for Sweeney and Neely to be here a while yet. The last time they hired a new GM they just walked down the hall and promoted the next man up.
Everything you say is true but if fans stop coming it won't take 2-3 years, it will be immediate! It took one season last time JJ cheaped out and fans left in droves and quickly changes were made. Business people understand two things, profit and loss, and the loss side makes crap happen on the double!
 
I want that too, been a Bruins fan for over 50 years, but the fact this team has 6 cups in 100 years is sad, granted there were times when we had to face the dynasty teams like the Habs, Islanders and Oilers, other times we blew great chances like in 2019.
I'm a Bobby Orr kid. The timing with the Oilers was the hardest. They had a really good team (Bruins).

They need to rebuild. It's not brain surgery. You can't win the cup with average teams year in / year out.
 
Really like how straight forward Neely was with his answer and also the fact that he’s dead one. The only thing is when to make the deal and will it be significant enough to make an impact?

Team(s) are on the Bruins heels and in a a very short time, they could be looking up at 3 or 4 teams playing catch up.

He has the right answers and it’s a tough call, if it was me, I’d play it out close to the deadline and see what’s what, unless a top young Center with term falls into their laps before hand.
 
Predictable but wrong approach IMO. It shouldn't just be about whether or not the team is good enough to make the playoffs. The correct question is will the team be good enough to seriously compete for a Cup? If the answer to that is 'no', then making short-term moves or letting good trade opportunities pass by purely for the sake of the playoffs alone is the wrong thing to do. It's just wasting time for the sake of $$$$ and selling rainbows.

I will take just a little comfort from the fact Neely even dared to mention the word 'retooling', suggesting it might at least be on the table in some circumstances. But my guess is those circumstances are narrow and will need to be quite desperate. It also does sound like there's some realism there and they're not going to throw the kitchen sink at a Cup tilt this year, so if nothing else they might well avoid doing anything really stupid and detrimental. Little steps, I guess.

We all agree that team Presidents shouldn't be out there touting "we think we are a playoff team" as this is not very inspiring for fans. We also need to keep in mind however that the prospect of being a playoff team is just enough to keep the average fan interested and enticed to attend games. Bs' ownership has been against a rebuild ever since the disastrous 96-97 season as the attendance repercussions were felt for several seasons thereafter. I don't believe a rebuild is in this team's future, so enter the retooling reference.

A retooling concept works as long as you have a solid core to continue working with (ex: 2015). With an aging Marchand, non-existent Coyle, Zacha, underperforming Lindholm, thin prospect pool and a forward lineup of fringe 3rd-4th liners, it would still be a painful retool.

I honestly think the best they could do is move one or several of Coyle, Korpisalo, Carlo, Frederic but they'll get 2nd to 3rd rounders and/or B+ prospects. Not a popular opinion, but Marchand could fetch a nice haul and I think is worth a 1st rounder and/or a A- prospect. Moving a few of the above also frees up $15-20M of cap space for UFA's in the off-season.

Whatever the case, even rebuilds aren't guaranteed and could take a a decade or more (Buffalo, Sens, Wings, etc), so it won't happen here.

I honestly believe JJ allows the Bs to spend to the cap as long as it keeps the team competitive and the building is full. I also think that ownership's propensity for tolerance on missing the playoffs will be very small for DS and Neely. It is after all, a business and these decisions are made in a boardroom.
 
The Jacobs are first and foremost business people and like any business they want to make as much money as they can, while doing the least possible. As long as there are fans filling the arena, buying concessions and merchandise, then why fire Sweeney and Neely? The only way this changes is if they miss the playoffs 2-3 years in a row and attendance starts to fall, that is what will prompt them for change. Get ready for Sweeney and Neely to be here a while yet. The last time they hired a new GM they just walked down the hall and promoted the next man up.
The obvious here but ….. I’m guessing anyone owning a business wants to make money, expand, provide and add jobs etc. we would all be doing the same. I’m guessing 100% of businesses run this way. Plus anything is possible in the playoffs. Get there and see what happens. We saw this with a depleted injured Bruin line up and hot goalie to win the cup.
 
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Everything you say is true but if fans stop coming it won't take 2-3 years, it will be immediate! It took one season last time JJ cheaped out and fans left in droves and quickly changes were made. Business people understand two things, profit and loss, and the loss side makes crap happen on the double!
IMO it will take a few years as there is still a waiting list for tickets.

I got my seats 23 years ago when the Bs were not so good. It was a good time to get tickets as the choice of seats was much better than now. I have ALWAYS been able to sell my tickets for at least as much as I paid so it is not an issue with me. I think the Bs will be back at winning more games soon. I know this isn't their year for the cup, but I don't see them having a slump like the Habs.
 
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There was a reason

“I just feel more comfortable as a player compared to when I went down,” Poitras acknowledged on Tuesday morning at Warrior Ice Arena. “I just feel better overall. I just like being on the ice. I kind of found that love for the game again and it just makes you feel better when you get on the ice every day.”

Poitras’s time in Providence was a necessary measure for Boston’s most promising prospect in order to get back on track.
Interesting comment " I kind of found that love for the game again" really:huh:
 
Interesting comment " I kind of found that love for the game again" really:huh:
Have you watched the Bruins ? Or are you a Tick Talk Toe guy

Jim Montgomery was coaching like guy who slept in his clothes above the covers

He drained this team of life and openly criticized Poitras

It was so brutal when my yoga instructor asked at the end of class if there is anyone you want to send energy to, my class spent a month recharging Matt Poitras

Everytime I’m listening to my Apple Music Mo Town list and get to Harold Melvin & the Blue Notes ‘The Love I Lost’ I think of poor Matty P

Welcome back Matty !!!!! Monty is gone and Sacco Magic is coming
 
I am a long time Bs fan too.

#1 on my bucket list is to see the Bs win the cup on home ice with me there. I am 72 and the expense of the tickets is wearing me down...Plus the ride to and from NH is OK for now...but I am old.

They had better hurry....and I know this is not the year
I would love for you to witness the Bruins win the cup at home. I hope you get to see this happen soon. :) I am 59, so hoping we can win a few more cups soon as well.
 
I'm a Bobby Orr kid. The timing with the Oilers was the hardest. They had a really good team (Bruins).

They need to rebuild. It's not brain surgery. You can't win the cup with average teams year in / year out.
A hot goalie can carry you a long way sometimes as well, but banking on that is like playing Russian Roulette. I agree they need to rebuild at some point.
 
We all agree that team Presidents shouldn't be out there touting "we think we are a playoff team" as this is not very inspiring for fans. We also need to keep in mind however that the prospect of being a playoff team is just enough to keep the average fan interested and enticed to attend games. Bs' ownership has been against a rebuild ever since the disastrous 96-97 season as the attendance repercussions were felt for several seasons thereafter. I don't believe a rebuild is in this team's future, so enter the retooling reference.

A retooling concept works as long as you have a solid core to continue working with (ex: 2015). With an aging Marchand, non-existent Coyle, Zacha, underperforming Lindholm, thin prospect pool and a forward lineup of fringe 3rd-4th liners, it would still be a painful retool.

I honestly think the best they could do is move one or several of Coyle, Korpisalo, Carlo, Frederic but they'll get 2nd to 3rd rounders and/or B+ prospects. Not a popular opinion, but Marchand could fetch a nice haul and I think is worth a 1st rounder and/or a A- prospect. Moving a few of the above also frees up $15-20M of cap space for UFA's in the off-season.

Whatever the case, even rebuilds aren't guaranteed and could take a a decade or more (Buffalo, Sens, Wings, etc), so it won't happen here.

I honestly believe JJ allows the Bs to spend to the cap as long as it keeps the team competitive and the building is full. I also think that ownership's propensity for tolerance on missing the playoffs will be very small for DS and Neely. It is after all, a business and these decisions are made in a boardroom.

Though the players probably find it inspiring.
 
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I'm a Bobby Orr kid. The timing with the Oilers was the hardest. They had a really good team (Bruins).

They need to rebuild. It's not brain surgery. You can't win the cup with average teams year in / year out.
But you can make the playoffs yearly which is a pre requisite for being the Bruins GM. I have no doubt that by retooling, Cam is talking about a 1st or 2nd going for a player who will keep the streak alive. Doesn't matter if this team gets knocked out in the 1st round but they have an opportunity to potentially go deep in the playoffs in Swayman plays well. I think theres a good chance they lose quick because like you said, this team is dead average and does not match up well vs top end squads. I'd sell.
 

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