Chara crosscheck to Gallagher’s neck (Update: fined $5k)

[jetsforever]

Dangerous move, a fine seems right

 

[mouser]

Are they ever going to increase these fines which are currently peanuts to millionaires?

Doubtful. The real "fines" are when a player is suspended.

 

[Sheppy]

Then post it.

Posting screengrabs of videos of these types of plays just leads to bickering back and forth.

Go find it.

There’s going to be bickering regardless, has nothing to do with photos.

 

[ArGarBarGar]

Go find it.

There’s going to be bickering regardless, has nothing to do with photos.

You are 100% wrong.

If you want to compare situations, it is up to you to provide the necessary information to compare them. I'm not doing your research for you.

 

[Sheppy]

You are 100% wrong.

If you want to compare situations, it is up to you to provide the necessary information to compare them. I'm not doing your research for you.

I did my research.

 

[ArGarBarGar]

I did my research.

Not based on this thread you haven't.

 

[MXD]

Screengrabs are useless.

The fine is fair enough.

 

[Gee Wally]

bickering about bickering.

Is that like 'no fighting in the war room' ?

 

[Pengwins]

typical Chara cheapshot. he's a dirty player

 

[Sheppy]

Not based on this thread you haven't.

1:48 of video titled “Pastrnak & Gallagher get into it”

Pastrnak is engaged, Gallagher comes in from the side, stick horizontal and gets Pastrnak in the neck.

Im not making things up.

 

[ArGarBarGar]

1:48 of video titled “Pastrnak & Gallagher get into it”

Pastrnak is engaged, Gallagher comes in from the side, stick horizontal and gets Pastrnak in the neck.

Is there a specific reason you are doing everything except embedding the video on here?

 

[PatriceBergeronFan]

You are 100% wrong.

If you want to compare situations, it is up to you to provide the necessary information to compare them. I'm not doing your research for you.

That screen shot is quite clear.... I imagine it would take a few moments of your time to find it if you so desire.

Is there a specific reason you are doing everything except embedding the video on here?

You now have all the material you need to find it. Not everyone is skilled with embedding video in a forum.

 

[uncleben]

another incident, and he’s considered a repeat offender. That’s why they fine.

Suspensions and fines count separately for repeat offender status.

Repeat offender for suspensions is if they are suspended within an 18 month window preceding the current suspension; a fine does not influence the status of a suspension. If they are deemed so, then their salary lost due to games played is calculated not by days in the season (186 in this season), but by games in a season (82).

E.g. A player making $6,000,000, suspended 2 games.
Non-repeat - $6,000,000/186 days * 2 games = $64,516.13 lost
Repeat - $6,000,000/82 games * 2 games = $146,341.46 lost

Repeat offender for fines is if they are fined within an 12 month window preceding the current fine; a suspension does not influence the fine of a suspension. If they are deemed repeat this only increases the maximum possible fine, if they would have previously hit the ceiling. Players can be fined up to 50% of one day's salary, up to a maximum of $10,000.00 for their first offense, and $15,000.00 if a repeat offender.

E.g. A player making $6,000,000, fined.
Non-repeat - $6,000,000/186 days * 0.5 = $16,129.03 => capped at $10,000
Repeat - $6,000,000/186 days * 0.5 = $16,129.03 => capped at $15,000

For Chara specifically then, this will have no direct bearing on if he gets a suspension (I say no direct bearing because it won't give him a repeat offender status, but DOPS can still consider a player's history at any time in their career, whether they were suspended, fined, or had no disciplinary action imposed on them, when deciding on a length of a suspension) AND, it would have no bearing anyway if he gets fined again in the next year!

Chara, $2,000,000:
Non-repeat - $2,000,000/186 days * 0.5 = $5,376.34 => does not reach $10,000 cap
Repeat - $2,000,000/186 days * 0.5 = $5,376.34 => does not reach $15,000 cap; no difference

Chara, this time around wasn't even fined his maximum.
The NHL press release states he was fined the maximum allowable, BUT $5,000 is the maximum the League can hand out without having to offer a telephone hearing (CBA 18.7 (d)).
Which is to say, if they fined him is true max, or anything above $5,000, that would require DOPS to host a telephone hearing, where they would have to provide evidence and argument, and give Chara a chance to defend himself. This way, they can just slap the fine on him, and pat themselves on the back, with no extra work.


TL;DR: As much as we say the suspension system is broken, fines are an absolute pittance and a JOKE.

 

[Sheppy]

Is there a specific reason you are doing everything except embedding the video on here?

Nope, just telling you what to look for, and the time of the incident in the video. That’s all I have to do, honestly.

 

[kingpest19]

Chara faced no discipline, not even 2 minutes, after smashing Kadri's head into the glass last postseason. It's painfully obvious that the league has a different rulebook for certain players.

It's been that way for years. Look at the difference in suspension lengths for Chris Simon and Chris Pronger for the same thing. Both had prior suspensions the year before but one guy got 30 games and one got 8 games.

 

[Sheppy]

It's been that way for years. Look at the difference in suspension lengths for Chris Simon and Chris Pronger for the same thing. Both had prior suspensions the year before but one guy got 30 games and one got 8 games.

Not even in the same hemisphere of being “the same thing”

 

[swimmer77]

What does 10K get you?

 

[Maitz]

Don’t care about that, it happens a lot but what about marchand speared on petry?? That deserves a suspension

 

[paulhiggins]

Equivalent to about 50 bucks in working guy money. He has cronies Jeremy and Gary to thank for that. What about the 10,000 x-checks he didn't get anything for? Jeremy and Gary again.

 

[Sheppy]

What does 10K get you?

I thought you said 10M for a second and I thought, a goalie that gets lit up like a Christmas tree.

 

[Rydan]

Don’t care about that, it happens a lot but what about marchand speared on petry?? That deserves a suspension

no.

 

[Sheppy]

Don’t care about that, it happens a lot but what about marchand speared on petry?? That deserves a suspension

No it doesn’t.

 

[smack66]

Don’t care about that, it happens a lot but what about marchand speared on petry?? That deserves a suspension

honest question, did you watch the game or simply hear the Marchand 'speared' Petry.

 

[Fixxer]

Well deserved cross check for that puke.

My love for Chara went up. Nicely done. I’ll pay the 5k.

I'm a Habs fan but I guess the Bruins hate for Gallagher is similar to ours for Marchand.

 

[Iapyi]

Chara continues with his cowardly play.