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fsanford
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Leopard cannot change its spots, I personally think he is not the loyal type, which I want to see in GM.
Kingsfan1
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This I always wanted Sutter gone but I loved Lombardi. He has a great mind for hockey just fails to evolve from loyalty and ego.
I forgot if it was Bernstein or Hoven that said DL's inner circle was Shocked when negotiations with Gaborik and Greene hit a snag and when they reconvened Gaborik and Greene got the term that they got from DL despite the rest of the staff not wanting to go that long.
If that's the case, then one would have to imagine that Beckman would have had knowledge of who made the right judgement call (with the benefit of hindsight), but was overruled. Surely that played into the decision to promote Luc and Blake.
Same could be said with bringing back Sutter.
If that's the case, then one would have to imagine that Beckman would have had knowledge of who made the right judgement call (with the benefit of hindsight), but was overruled. Surely that played into the decision to promote Luc and Blake.
Same could be said with bringing back Sutter.
DryIslandBartender
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I want to see a GM that can spot talent. Dean has a long history of that. Luc and Rob have big shoes to fill.
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Was Blake responsible for hiring Stothers in Manchester/Ontario? If so, that's a really solid hiring. Stothers has been great!
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Well, it's not surprising the Kings went south when we lose players for whatever reasons such as Mitchell for nothing, Regehr for nothing, Scuderi for nothing, Voynov for nothing, Penner for nothing, Richards for nothing, Stoll for nothing, Lecavalier for nothing, Sekera for nothing, Lucic for nothing, Williams for nothing. We never replaced any of that talent, leadership, or chemistry with anything at all! Sutter and Lombardi was running the team uphill against hurricane force winds! Now, about Luc and Blake. I'm willing to wait for their first franchise decisions and then judge. I'm very wary but who can ever tell. All i know is we need to up the talent level with more speed and skill. I don't mind our style of play. We just need some playmakers and some finishers. Maybe sprinkle a bit of creativity and we would be fine.
Herby
How could Blake have known?
They didn't replace the talent (well atleast at forward) because they traded so many picks and whiffed on alot of the ones they kept.
Everyone knew the Kings wouldn't be able to re-sign Lucic and probably wouldn't be able to sign Sekera.
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Dean also had a problem of over valuing talent, and not realizing guys were on the downside of the career,
Like I said, early Lombardi, did not fall in love with his players early in his Kings career,, a cup later, and starts marrying guys he should have walked away from. Evidentally he hired a really bad capoligists.
Agree Blake has big shoes to fill, will be curious if he plays hardball with Toffoli, who in a contract year, even with injury was subpar. Cannot fear offer sheets, got get them for the right price and term. Don't overpay.
MynameisKing
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I think the Kings would of been in better shape if they could have replaced half of those guys with some players with even a slightly less comparable attributes. At least it wouldn't have been a total loss!
Herby
How could Blake have known?
I'm pretty sure the Richards fiasco was a big factor in ownerships decision to move on. That was the single most perplexing move I can think of maybe in the history of the franchise. There have been plenty of bad draft picks, signings and trades by Kings GM's, but that one, I mean I just don't know how you watch that guy play in 2014 and then decide to commit 6 more years at almost $6m a year. But that was just the biggest example of loyalty and marrying players that just doomed DL.
I think Blake will do what Dean did in 2006 when he arrived and make a big splash trade, very likely it will be Muzzin but who knows I think anyone could be had for the right price.
I think they need to get more skilled, a bit faster and younger.
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Not suprised by either firing. Love what each did for the team, 2 cups is unbelievable. Unfortunately they never adapted to the ever changing NHL.
The appointment of Blake is suprising. I am not going to worry about it until I see a few moves. We don't know what was happening in the room. Maybe Blake argued against Lombardi's moves, we don't know. Obviously he did something that impressed the upper echelon. Maybe Futa was wired to much like DL, maybe he has a different offer, maybe he will get offered another position inside our organization.
Curious to see how things work out.
The appointment of Blake is suprising. I am not going to worry about it until I see a few moves. We don't know what was happening in the room. Maybe Blake argued against Lombardi's moves, we don't know. Obviously he did something that impressed the upper echelon. Maybe Futa was wired to much like DL, maybe he has a different offer, maybe he will get offered another position inside our organization.
Curious to see how things work out.
Herby
How could Blake have known?
it was so much of a country club atmosphere that AEG decided the best way to change that is to promote Luc and Blake, good old boys network.
Hey, I am not on board with Blake, I wish they had gotten someone from the outside. But we don't know Blake's feelings, maybe Rob was against all the contracts, maybe he wanted to buy-out Richards, maybe he didn't want to trade 1st round picks for rentals.
I just think that not enough guys were fighting for jobs, and there was a lot of comfort because everyone from Kopitar to Clifford got paid and most of their games fell off.
I think we will see some names moved this summer and hopefully that wakes up and motivates some other guys.
DryIslandBartender
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At the same time, Lombardi kept looking for leadership because guys like Doughty, Kopitar, and Brown did not have any. Gaborik doesn't have any. None of the guys signed long term have any. Stoll and Richards had off ice issues with illegal substances, Willie and Justin Williams couldn't fit under the cap. They were supposed to be replaced by this current cast.
This current cast didn't step up, the players just did not fill the leadership vaccum. They were supposed to but instead they sulk and whine until they get their way. I've really soured on Kopi, who just got a ridiculous contract and doesn't even try this year.
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I'm of this mindset as well. I think Blake is pretty selfish but maybe the team could use some cold blood instead of all the warm family loyalty that's been going on. You can't win games with good vibes. He's not a dumb guy and he could turn out to be a good GM. We just don't know yet.
The raw hate is weird. The contract stuff was years ago and he was a hockey player, not a girlfriend that cheated on you with several gentlemen in the summer of 1994 (I'm dead inside).
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The Lucic deal was probably the worst part of the last 3 years in trying to improve the team. He lost 3 assets for a guy who he had to know wanted 6 mil per when his contract was up , and knew he didn't have the cap space when the time came. The real dick punch of the deal was when Boston flipped Jones for a 1st right to one of our rivals that fixed their goalie problem.
Bandit
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Yeah no ****. Guy captains the Kings to two cups, "no leadership". My ass. When he was drafted the report was that he would likely be captain one day. It's no coincidence either that he was the only one mentioned to stand up and tell the team "remember how this feels" in the locker room after the game on Sunday.
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Let's be honest here. Blake was just a figurehead for the AEG/Reign, and Dean needed someone to replace Hexy. Do we really think Blake had any say in anything?
Moreso than Futa or Yanneti? Please. Rob just a corporate shill/blowhard just like Luc has turned into one. It's the Lieweekly era again.
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