Chabot vs Chychurn

[SensFactor]

Id trade both too. Makes Sanderson you top Dman rightfully so. Looks for top 4 RD in a trade and draft a D in this draft.

 

[Xspyrit]

I think a problem in the fanbase is that many seem to think that because we have Sanderson, we can't have Chabot.

Do we need to look around the league to see which teams have high caliber players at the same position?

It is a problem you NEED to have if you want your team to become good, 1-2 punches at the same positions.

 

[bicboi64]

I think a problem in the fanbase is that many seem to think that because we have Sanderson, we can't have Chabot.

Do we need to look around the league to see which teams have high caliber players at the same position?

It is a problem you NEED to have if you want your team to become good, 1-2 punches at the same positions.

Yeah but how many of those 2nd punches are paid $8 million and have had their back broken from carrying weak ass teams like Chabot has had to when he was younger?

 

[Stylizer1]

BUT

I think a problem in the fanbase is that many seem to think that because we have Sanderson, we can't have Chabot.

Do we need to look around the league to see which teams have high caliber players at the same position?

It is a problem you NEED to have if you want your team to become good, 1-2 punches at the same positions.

But Chabot slaps when healthy.

 

[Erik Alfredsson]

No reason to trade Chabot. If your concern is his health then it will also be a concern for 31 other teams.

Chychrun just played 82 games, is clearly a horrible fit with this team, and doesn't want to be here. It's a very obvious choice in terms of who to trade. Everyone saying Chabot is simply overthinking it.

 

[JungleBeat]

I think a problem in the fanbase is that many seem to think that because we have Sanderson, we can't have Chabot.

Do we need to look around the league to see which teams have high caliber players at the same position?

It is a problem you NEED to have if you want your team to become good, 1-2 punches at the same positions.

Chabot hasn't been high caliber for a couple years now.

 

[Silky Johnson]

We just need to get a decent top 4 defencive RD and all is good.

Trade Chychrun and play Chabot in the second pairing with a responsible NHL calibre partner.

Sanderson is the 1(L)D. If Chabot can stay healthy he is an asset in that role.

 

[ottawah]

It seems every team is scouring for a top 4 RHD defensive D in this league.

What does Ottawa have to bring to the table to convince one to come here in free agency? Winning? Great city? Low taxes? Great weather?

The only thing we have is the over pay, with less cap space than most teams. And many of these players are already looking at 6+ million, and are largely old, broken down and some night healthy scratches. Those that have value can decide where they want to go.

To get one on the trade market? Conversation starts with Stutzle, Tkachuk or Sanderson, so my opinion is hang up the phone.

Even Edmonton has gone with a LHD at RHD when Dehairnais faltered. And Ceci is playing major minutes. Florida only has two RHD. Ultimately by not overspending on RHD and beefing up the rest of the position, they built a winning team. Toronto on the other hand overpaid for Holl and Brodie and look where that got them ....

And drafting? Its normally a 5 year progression for a great D prospect to make a real NHL impact. Not everyone is linear of course, but where Ottawa is drafting you have to be patient.

Personally I see no easy quick fix, to RHD or goaltending. Those needs have been neglected for years, and its starting to show.

 

[Stylizer1]

Chabot hasn't been high caliber for a couple years now.

He's never been a high caliber player. He got the minutes on a bad team and produced accordingly. Many second pair dmen could do that. He is not even an all star level player.

Chabot would look great on a 2nd pairing behind Karlsson and Sanderson. Unfortunately Dohrion with his infinite wisdom gave Chabot an almost immovable contract.

Karlsson like Spezza makes the players around them better. Chabot does not at all.

 

[26Mats]

No reason to trade Chabot. If your concern is his health then it will also be a concern for 31 other teams.

Chychrun just played 82 games, is clearly a horrible fit with this team, and doesn't want to be here. It's a very obvious choice in terms of who to trade. Everyone saying Chabot is simply overthinking it.

What happened with Chycrun?

How was he -30 this year, while Sanderson was +8, Zub +5, and Chabot only -3? That -30 really stands out.

 

[Tuna99]

Chabot is better. Would like to keep both and find some stabilizing defensively minded players - Zub or Methot types - to complement them, then roll three pairings equally rather than have a traditional top pair, middle and bottom. I think Chabot is best when mins are kept down and fear throwing Sanderson the reigns too quickly might cause him to regress under heavy workload a la Chabot.

Chabot definitely has the better attitude and wants to be part of the team. Chychryn has been on the news it feels for 5 years and he seems to be more concerned with finding his team and getting his money then committing to a team and winning

Not anti Chychryn, just the wrong move and it shows.

 

[Icelevel]

Chabot had a couple games this season under Jacques where you remembered why he was so hyped. At his best, he can really take over games - I haven’t seen that with Chychrun.

It’s just not there consistently with Chabot, be it because of injury or coaching or usage or strength or whatever. But Chychrun has just as many negatives without Chabot’s game-breaking ability so kind of an easy one for me.

Chychrun had a couple games like that too. He had a few dominant shifts I can remember. At their absolute best chychrun might be a notch above but we didn’t see it very often.

 

[Golden_Jet]

Chychrun had a couple games like that too. He had a few dominant shifts I can remember. At their absolute best chychrun might be a notch above but we didn’t see it very often.

Not seeing it

 

[Icelevel]

Not seeing it

You mean you didn’t see it?
It’s not an opinion. It happened. Maybe you missed a couple games.

 

[Alex1234]

Chychrun had like 5 good games lol

Chabot on the right side would have had zero though
They don't even dare playing him on the right

 

[Golden_Jet]

You mean you didn’t see it?
It’s not an opinion. It happened. Maybe you missed a couple games.

lol Sure, a couple of games, like you said. Wow.
It’s not even close who is better, it’s Chabot.

 

[Icelevel]

Also the first few games chychrun played were really good. I still think at their best he’s a bit better. He pushes play forward better and can be more physical.

 

[Golden_Jet]

I still think at their best he’s a bit better. He pushes play forward better and can be more physical.

Wrong and he’s a defensive liability

 

[Icelevel]

Wrong and he’s a defensive liability

Are you saying chabot is good defensively?
There were long stretches last year where we were trying to figure out how to dump him for nothing.

 

[Golden_Jet]

Are you saying chabot is good defensively?

No I’m saying Chychurn is brutal defensively, not one of the defenseman on the team came close to him as being as bad at even strength.

 

[Icelevel]

No I’m saying Chychurn is brutal defensively, not one of the defenseman on the team came close to him as being as bad at even strength.

He didn’t fit here that’s for sure.

 

[Xspyrit]

Are you saying chabot is good defensively?
There were long stretches last year where we were trying to figure out how to dump him for nothing.

That’s the thing, Habs fans would be licking their chops if those fans were making the decisions (which was close when Dorion was the GM). They were probably dreaming of getting Chabot for Josh Anderson straight up.

Thankfully the reign of terror (for us, and Santa Claus for others) is over

I can’t see Chabot going anywhere because I can’t see how it would make the team better. Other teams can play the "8.0 AAV card" to not give up something good

 

[dumbdick]

I'm glad to see chabot running away with this.

People underestimate how good a player he is.

Man, if we had proper coaching that top 4 of chychrun, sandy, chabot and zub could be pretty special.