Injury Report: Chabot broken hand, 4-6 weeks

[Mingus Dew]

is that pick not being lost due to the Daddy fiasco!!!

That is obviously Defcon 1 because it's likely going to be a very high pick.

 

[Do Make Say Think]

We still have our first round pick this year right?

We haven't traded it away?

 

[swiftwin]

I think it’s a manageable injury but you need Zub.

Sanderson - Zub
Chychrun - Guennette
Kleven - Hamonic

I agree, it's manageable. It could be a rallying point. Takes pressure off the team.

 

[Mingus Dew]

We still have our first round pick this year right?

We haven't traded it away?

We still have it.

 

[Agent Zub]

The worst part is that this is gonna be a lost season with the Pinto and Chabot news and they may give Dorion some extra time as a result.

Pray to God that he is not allowed to be involved with our 2024 first round pick.

dorion is a lame duck figurehead. when they fire him it will be like an exorcism of bad juju.

i doubt any of andlauer, staios, or alfredsson take him that seriously until then.

 

[dumbdick]

What a crazy 24 hours in sens land.

 

[Micklebot]

It shouldn't but you never know.

However in a contact sport, the expectation to not miss core pieces for lengthy periods of time is highly unrealistic. Boston and Florida both had important and lengthy injury situations last year and made the dance.

Sure, both teams last year are possibly more talented than this roster but the takeaway is this is where coaching comes into play.

Some teams go on lengthy runs of full roster availability but I always think of those situations as the exception, not the rule.

I think this is downplaying issues over the last couple years.

Nobody has any expectation of core players not missing time. What they have is expectations that the amount of time missed will be in line with league averages.

2021-22 8th last in net LWAR
2022-23 4th last in net LWAR (Boston and Florida both finished middle of the league that year so no where near the same situation)

Formenton and Pinto are a bit different than injuries, but impact the team in a similar fashion. They don't get counted in team injury stats.

2023-24 is TBD but with Zub, Brannstrom and now Chabot out, it's not looking promising, and that's not even accounting for how the impact of injuries is compounded when its to the same position.

Injuries happen to every team, but the idea that good teams overcome it is misleading, I mean, Vegas certainly didn't in 21-22, Dallas didn't in 20-21. Good teams are insulated by their depth, but injuries impact everyone, acting like it's nothing more than an excuse is just not living in the real word.

 

[Joeyjoejoe]

We still have our first round pick this year right?

We haven't traded it away?

We were probably almost close to trade it to get rid of Joseph to sign a guy that would have been suspended for 41 games.

I guess it could be worse.

 

[PatrickEaves]

We still have our first round pick this year right?

We haven't traded it away?

Rumor has it we're losing it because of the Dandonov situation.

 

[MarkStone]

I think this is downplaying issues over the last couple years.

Nobody has any expectation of core players not missing time. What they have is expectations that the amount of time missed will be in line with league averages.

2021-22 8th last in net LWAR
2022-23 4th last in net LWAR (Boston and Florida both finished middle of the league that year so no where near the same situation)

Formenton and Pinto are a bit different than injuries, but impact the team in a similar fashion. They don't get counted in team injury stats.

2023-24 is TBD but with Zub, Brannstrom and now Chabot out, it's not looking promising, and that's not even accounting for how the impact of injuries is compounded when its to the same position.

Injuries happen to every team, but the idea that good teams overcome it is misleading, I mean, Vegas certainly didn't in 21-22, Dallas didn't in 20-21. Good teams are insulated by their depth, but injuries impact everyone, acting like it's nothing more than an excuse is just not living in the real word.

Sure, the reasoning wears thin after a while however, fair or not.

 

[Icelevel]

Guenette, Kleven get your stuff

You just have to laugh at this point. Poor guys who actually have to go out and get it done. I mean we still have a lot of great players in the lineup so it’s not over yet. It should be over for dj and Dorion but the players can still get it done.

 

[Wallet Inspector]

I wouldn't feel as bad about this if Brannstrom wasn't injured as well, but our defense is getting thin.

 

[Ghost of Jody Hull]

I think this is downplaying issues over the last couple years.

Nobody has any expectation of core players not missing time. What they have is expectations that the amount of time missed will be in line with league averages.

2021-22 8th last in net LWAR
2022-23 4th last in net LWAR (Boston and Florida both finished middle of the league that year so no where near the same situation)

Formenton and Pinto are a bit different than injuries, but impact the team in a similar fashion. They don't get counted in team injury stats.

2023-24 is TBD but with Zub, Brannstrom and now Chabot out, it's not looking promising, and that's not even accounting for how the impact of injuries is compounded when its to the same position.

Injuries happen to every team, but the idea that good teams overcome it is misleading, I mean, Vegas certainly didn't in 21-22, Dallas didn't in 20-21. Good teams are insulated by their depth, but injuries impact everyone, acting like it's nothing more than an excuse is just not living in the real word.

You’re right, it’s hard for even good teams to overcome injuries.

So when a bad team has so many injuries, it’s even worse.

And we’re a bad team.

We’re a bad team with a healthy lineup, and we’re an even worse team when injuries hit.

The idea that this is a good team is just that, an idea. It’s never been real.

 

[Do Make Say Think]

Rumor has it we're losing it because of the Dandonov situation.

That I really struggle to believe.

This long after it happened? It is possible but no serious insider has brought this up yet have they?

 

[Golden_Jet]

I noticed one of his wrists has been taped all season,

 

[Sens9292]

Same story, different year. This team needs a major shakeup

 

[Do Make Say Think]

You’re right, it’s hard for even good teams to overcome injuries.

So when a bad team has so many injuries, it’s even worse.

And we’re a bad team.

We’re a bad team with a healthy lineup, and we’re an even worse team when injuries hit.

The idea that this is a good team is just that, an idea. It’s never been real.

We are a bad team but we also have some excellent players.

It won't take much to take this roster to the next level but Dorion/DJ are not the ones who will pull it off.

I noticed one of his wrists has been taped all season,

Odds are good he was already hurt, this is just him not being able to play through it anymore.

 

[ottawagm]

I noticed one of his wrists has been taped all season,

That's what I was wondering. He had it taped last year too.

 

[Relapsing]

Rumor has it we're losing it because of the Dandonov situation.

Would rather the NHL just pull the bandaid off if that's the case. Pack all the utterly horrible news into a couple of days so we can move past it.

 

[Senscore]

That I really struggle to believe.

This long after it happened? It is possible but no serious insider has brought this up yet have they?

Just the dingleberry who said Dorion was fired yesterday.

 

[Ghost of Jody Hull]

We are a bad team but we also have some excellent players.

It won't take much to take this roster to the next level but Dorion/DJ are not the ones who will pull it off.


Odds are good he was already hurt, this is just him not being able to play through it anymore.

Every single team in the NHL has some excellent players. Montreal has some excellent players. So does Arizona. So does Columbus.

Having some excellent players doesn’t make you a good team.

 

[BankStreetParade]

Same story, different year. This team needs a major shakeup

You think there would be less long-term injuries if the GM and coaching staff were different?

 

[swiftwin]

Odds are good he was already hurt, this is just him not being able to play through it anymore.

I highly doubt it's related. Do you tape a wrist when it's broken?

 

[ottawagm]

Has he just been playing with an injured wrist all year and they are finally willing to let him sit out to let it heal?

There was talk he may no be ready to start the year and he has had one taped all year.

 

[ottawagm]

This may also accelerate a GM change. If you were already planning to do one, would you wait and let the old GM make any trades to bring in depth, or would you want the new GM to be making those decisions?