Proposal: CGY - OTT

[Dion TheFluff]

CGY: Matthew Tkachuk
OTT: 7th overall pick, 2nd round pick, Alex Formenton, and Ridly Greig (any prospect really out of Sanderson)

flame away

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[Ledge And Dairy]

Little to no interest without Stutzle involved

 

[Sensmileletsgo]

If Tkachuk has a contract signed then yes. Two Tkachuks on one team would be to fun to pass up.

 

[KingsHockey24]

I'd imagine Calgary wants a lot more.

 

[Do Make Say Think]

I'd imagine Calgary wants a lot more.

Without an extension in place I wouldn't expect Calgary to get much.

Tkachuk can sign his 9 million QO and go to UFA. No team is going to give up top tier assets for one year of Tkachuk.

 

[SpezDispenser]

I'd imagine Calgary wants a lot more.

Holy crap, that's a huge package of prospects. Good luck with that.

As for the op, huge pass without extension. Then...yeah, probably

 

[Petes2424]

CGY: Matthew Tkachuk
OTT: 7th overall pick, 2nd round pick, Alex Formenton, and Ridly Greig (any prospect really out of Sanderson)

flame away

If he’s moved there’s Grade A assets coming back. There’s only one in your offer.

Ottawa would probably have to offer the 2022 7th overall, 2023 1st, and yea, Sanderson. It’s going to have to be a huge price. Maybe even more than that.

 

[Adele Dazeem]

Little to no interest without Stutzle involved

In your dreams. We'll just wait until he hits UFA

Calgary doesn't have leverage here; just like Ottawa with Stone. He'll sign a 1-year deal and go to Ottawa if he wants to play with his little brother.

 

[GermanSpitfire]

Little to no interest without Stutzle involved

Untouchable

 

[Sting]

If he’s moved there’s Grade A assets coming back. There’s only one in your offer.

Ottawa would probably have to offer the 2022 7th overall, 2023 1st, and yea, Sanderson. It’s going to have to be a huge price. Maybe even more than that.

Could you imagine the fallout from that trade? Dorion fired instantly lol.

Here's the reality though - Calgary likely flips him for a 1st and good prospect at the deadline as he'll remain unsigned.

Keep in mind his salary expectations are going to be out of this world on top of the assets given up.

Quite frankly I don't see a team willing to part with anything close to what you are suggesting.

7th overall, 2nd, Greig is probably the max I'd be willing to give up. No need for any franchise to ruin their cap structure or future over one guy unless he's McDavid.

 

[Petes2424]

Could you imagine the fallout from that trade? Dorion fired instantly lol.

Here's the reality though - Calgary likely flips him for a 1st and good prospect at the deadline as he'll remain unsigned.

Keep in mind his salary expectations are going to be out of this world on top of the assets given up.

Quite frankly I don't see a team willing to part with anything close to what you are suggesting.

7th overall, 2nd, Greig is probably the max I'd be willing to give up. No need for any franchise to ruin their cap structure or future over one guy unless he's McDavid.

Nobody makes these types of trades unless they know they’ll be able to sign him. We just seen it with Fiala, and we will see it with Tkachuk, Bertuzzi, etc.

100% the most overly abused “take” we hear on HF. “He’s not worth your package because he only has one year left.” It’s actually very rare when a team gives up a huge package for a top end player, and that player walks.

 

[Wondercarrot]

If he’s moved there’s Grade A assets coming back. There’s only one in your offer.

Ottawa would probably have to offer the 2022 7th overall, 2023 1st, and yea, Sanderson. It’s going to have to be a huge price. Maybe even more than that.

You are going to be one reaaaally disappointed dude if they trade him somewhere.

 

[Sting]

Nobody makes these types of trades unless they know they’ll be able to sign him. We just seen it with Fiala, and we will see it with Tkachuk, Bertuzzi, etc.

100% the most overly abused “take” we hear on HF. “He’s not worth your package because he only has one year left.” It’s actually very rare when a team gives up a huge package for a top end player, and that player walks.

I agree with you. That doesn't happen a lot nowadays. Here's the problem - it's Matthew Tkachuk. He's likely walking himself all the way to UFA. This is why you can't really ask full extended value for the guy and why I anticipate Flames fans being disappointed in the return.

 

[The Devilish Buffoon]

If he’s moved there’s Grade A assets coming back. There’s only one in your offer.

Ottawa would probably have to offer the 2022 7th overall, 2023 1st, and yea, Sanderson. It’s going to have to be a huge price. Maybe even more than that.

What’s the grade A asset? 7th? I wouldn’t be surprised at all if many teams value (Ottawa included) value Grieg and/or Formenton very similarly to the 7th.

Either way I think it could be beat if he’s extended (I’m looking at NJD) but I see 3/4 assets there as relatively close.

 

[KevinRedkey]

Lmao @ Sanderson, 7th and a 2023 1st. Out to not only lunch but dinner as well.

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

If he’s moved there’s Grade A assets coming back. There’s only one in your offer.

Ottawa would probably have to offer the 2022 7th overall, 2023 1st, and yea, Sanderson. It’s going to have to be a huge price. Maybe even more than that.

Lol, that's funny.

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

In your dreams. We'll just wait until he hits UFA

Calgary doesn't have leverage here; just like Ottawa with Stone. He'll sign a 1-year deal and go to Ottawa if he wants to play with his little brother.

Hot take

 

[branch]

7th+Greig+JBD+2nd+a bit of money going back easily gets Tkachuk with 1 year left. Every GM in the league would take that.

 

[Tkachuk Norris]

Flames would be better off holding out for one elite young piece like Sanderson, Power, Boldy etc. They could do better quality wise. Those are a lot of good but not great assets IMO.

Also I like how every team is signing Matt Tkachuk in free agency 2023.

 

[Unbiased Fan]

I think second overall+ is the only deal to be made for Tkachuk

 

[Stevedave22]

I would assume the return would be similar to what Ottawa got for Karlsson. 7 OA, Brown (Tierney), Brannstrom (DeMelo), Former 1st round pick JBD/Thomson/Grieg/Boucher (Norris) and a 2nd. Nice haul for the flames and would be huge for the Sens marketing. Give Matthew a similar contract to Brady and boom.

 

[VanillaCoke]

Wouldn't be too surprised if he's traded to ottawa tomorrow.
Its a perfect fit in ottawa, they have tons of prospects and the 7th overall they're interested in moving for an impact player...

Two firsts and Sanderson is pretty laughable but i could see multiple prospects and 7th overall, the OP is pretty close.

 

[Byron Bitz]

In your dreams. We'll just wait until he hits UFA

Calgary doesn't have leverage here; just like Ottawa with Stone. He'll sign a 1-year deal and go to Ottawa if he wants to play with his little brother.

Ya I’m sure he will choose Ottawa if he hits UFA over all the other teams that would be trying to sign him. He’s definitely gonna choose Ottawa, the team that plays in Kanata and doesn’t give out signing bonuses. Just like all those other big name free agents that Ottawa signed.

 

[TkachukNorris79]

Now it's kinda feeling a trade to Ottawa is a possibility if CGY wants to tear it down. I think a good idea would be a conditional 1st in 2024, if Tkachuk is still on the Ottawa roster in 23-24, they get the 1st.

7th overall
Connor Brown (flip for 1st at the deadline)
Lassi/Branny/JBD (former 1st round RD all near NHL ready)
Ostapchuk/Jarventie/SOKOLOV (worth 2nds)
Del Zotto (cap)
*conditional 2024 1st if Tkachuk doesn't bolt as a UFA
2022 TBL 2nd

Obviously trying to avoid trading Pinto/Greig but they're obviously far from untouchable, would just prefer it to be a lesser package around them but beggars can't be choosers

 

[Mr Kot]

That's more than enough for him. Surprised anybody would say no to that.