Parekh is nowhere near ready to play big minutes, especially defensively. As of right now, hes a PP QB and learning the rest of the game. I imagine Parekh is going to be spoon fed all the top PP minutes, not sure how Nemec will feel about that . Maybe they can have a 2 Right shot Dman PP system?
Confirmed Trade: [CGY/NJD] Simon Nemec, Maxim Tsyplakov for Etienne Morin, 2026 2nd, 2027 VGK 1st (top 10 protected), 2028 COL 1st (top 10 protected)
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Parekh is nowhere near ready to play big minutes, especially defensively. As of right now, hes a PP QB and learning the rest of the game. I imagine Parekh is going to be spoon fed all the top PP minutes, not sure how Nemec will feel about that . Maybe they can have a 2 Right shot Dman PP system?
Would much rather pay Luke than Nemec.
That's not to say those who argue unfair treatment of Nemec compared to Luke don't have a point. I definitely think there are times where Luke could have used a benching or pulled his usage back.
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I think Nemec will play on PP1 and Parekh on PP2. I could be wrong though.
Parekh will probably get about 20 minutes a night playing on the 2nd pairing. I think all that ice time will be good for Parekh and he should do well with Whitecloud as his playing partner.
Yeah, that's because he was the 1st defenseman drafted in one of the strongest drafts in history. People expected him to be closer to a top pairing D by the time he was 21, not a #4.
I mean he literally played as a #4 as a 21 year old defenseman in Carolina
If you have the same expectations for Nemec as you did for Hanifin I suspect you will be disappointed. Hanifin was a young defenseman on a great trajectory with no major flaws or holes in his game. He was just young and still developing, but he had all the key attributes needed to become a top pairing dman down the road.
Nemec has some extremely obvious, painful holes in his game, and his skating is a significant blocker for him progressing into a reliable full time defender. If he had shown improvements there, I'd be more optimistic, but his skating speed metrics haven't progressed at all over the last 3 years. Most 20 year old prospects are able make meaningful gains in explosiveness by the age of 22 with a disciplined off ice training program. But he's made no progress there - if anything he's gone backwards a touch, which makes me extremely skeptical that he's going to all of the sudden make a jump there.
Below are his skating metrics at age 20 and then age 22, and then the same metrics for the guys drafted on either side of him.
Nemec played 60 games in 23-24 and 68 this past year - and his skating speed metrics haven't improved at all - in fact they're arguably worse.
Here is the same period for Slafkovksy. Higher top speed, twice as many 20-22mph bursts.
And here it is for Logan Cooley (note he played only 54 games in 25-26 vs 82 in 23-24, yet still had twice as many 22+ mph bursts and more 20-22 mph bursts.)
What we saw from Slafkovsky and Cooley is what we would have hoped to have seen from Nemec during the same period, but he's completely flat lined.
If his skating continues to stagnate, then expectations need to be drastically lowered, to the point where he might struggle to hold down a full time NHL job, unless he completely changes his game and tries to become a stay at home defenseman. You can't be a rover while also being well below average in the skating department
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I don't think Calgary really cares if he's "ready" or not. Give him the ice time, let him make mistakes and learn from them. You must not have watched the last month or so of Flames hockey last year, because Parekh went from someone who should probably be in the AHL, to someone who is probably a lock to make the NHL next year out of camp (and no, that's not because of team depth, he improved astronomically in a very short amount of time).
Calgary forcing minutes on him whether he is ready or not is exactly how development and confidence is killed.
Thats why its important to have vets to eat those hard minutes. The NHL is not a development league. IF hes not ready, he should be in the AHL.
Good for Parekh for doing well in the last month of the season. It happens every year on tank teams. Other teams play them lightly and the intensity isnt there. Then the prospect comes back the year after and drowns because other teams are taking it lightly on them anymore.
Happened with Elias Pettersson (D) with Canucks. Dominated the last month in 2024, came back last year and struggled with development. Lol We also thought Akito Hirose was the next Scott Neidermeyer after joining the Canucks for the last month of the season.
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Parekh is definitely playing PP1
But Nemec will get PK2 or PK1, PP2 and more Even Strength minutes than Parekh
Ledge And Dairy
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Playing minutes and playing hard minutes in a shutdown role are two different things. I don't expect Zayne to get heavy defensive zone starts or PK time. I think he will very likely be deployed mostly in the offensive and neutral zone, but still get 20+ minutes a night. IMO Calgary did a masterclass job at developing him last year, even if it wasn't clear to the fanbase early on. My point was that the Flames will value him learning and developing over on ice results. If he makes a bad pinch and it ends up in the back of our net, I don't think he's going to get benched from it.
you said
i’m merely basing my post off your viewpoint.
now you seem to be contradicting yourself.
cate to explain yourself and your views, then?
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I don't know if they'd be on the same PP, but Parekh is a RHS LD and Nemec is a RHS RD. The could coexist.
As much as both Nemec and Parekh are penciled into our top 4 right now for ideal conditions, for unideal conditions, I think we do have the horses to throw vets onto the top line to get eviscerated and yank both guys back onto the second and third pairing into a more sheltered role/training role by throwing Bahl, Whitecloud, Pachal, Hanley and Maatta in front of them. I'd also believe that the Flames might be intending on rolling with 8 dmen and roll pairing/mix up pairings rather than fixate on specific pairings and go ride or die. I think it'll work out.
Flames still have extra bodies on D and a lot on forward. I wonder if the d corps is set or if Connie has more moves he wants to do.
Your concern about development confidence wise, I think the Flames are good with that. We overhauled our farm team to have a development focus mandate rather than a results oriented mandate and it seems we have taken most of that learning and applied it towards how we ease our young guys into the league, even if it means heavy or light minutes. Parekh did a lot of TOI once we moved Andersson and Weegar and I was satisfied with the balance of the way his load was managed.
Parekh looked better and better the more minutes they gave him. Hell, they had him protecting the lead with a couple minutes left at the end of the year.
Comparing Parekhs confidence with Petterson's is laughable. If Parekh stumble's, he's the type to get pissed off and not have it happen again. Petterson looks scared to answer an interview question half the time.
The fact you think I was talking about Elias Pettersson the foward is what's laughable.
More so the fact the Petterson doesn't even make sense as a comparable. He's a 3rd rounder that played part time 3rd pairing for a year. That domination was cracking 15 minutes a few times and getting a goal.
These things aren't the same haha.
I think with Flames already having Parekh, I would have much rather they spent assets on a different prospect.
2027 is also a very very good and deep draft and having as many 1st round picks in 2027 would have been huge.
They basically moved Weegar and traded for a guy they hope to be like a Weegar one day.
Lets see if Nemec develops. He did not look good in NJ but he has his supporters that claim he was mis-used.
2027 is also a very very good and deep draft and having as many 1st round picks in 2027 would have been huge.
They basically moved Weegar and traded for a guy they hope to be like a Weegar one day.
Lets see if Nemec develops. He did not look good in NJ but he has his supporters that claim he was mis-used.
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Nocashstyle
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This is not true. He had points where he looked good. He just had more lows than highs. His foot speed and lack of any true high-end skills are the issues. I’d say there is next to no chance of him becoming a true top pairing guy, but I could see a top 4 guy if he works on his skating and defense.
One thing I do know is, Calgary seemingly scouts a couple teams like New Jersey and Vancouver heavily, while also just having pretty great luck with them. The results have been crazy:
Calgary in
Matvei Gridin
Hunter Brzustewicz
Rasmus Andersson
Luke Misa
2026 3rd
Yegor Sharangovich
Aydar Suniev
Kevin Bahl
Cole Reschny
Vancouver in
Lindholm
Zadorov
Baertschi
New Jersey in
Markstrom
Toffoli
Calgary’s penchant for identifying and developing defenseman for the last 2 decades has me hopeful for Nemec, but whatever is in the air with Calgary’s trades with these two teams is also a reason to believe.
Calgary in
Matvei Gridin
Hunter Brzustewicz
Rasmus Andersson
Luke Misa
2026 3rd
Yegor Sharangovich
Aydar Suniev
Kevin Bahl
Cole Reschny
Vancouver in
Lindholm
Zadorov
Baertschi
New Jersey in
Markstrom
Toffoli
Calgary’s penchant for identifying and developing defenseman for the last 2 decades has me hopeful for Nemec, but whatever is in the air with Calgary’s trades with these two teams is also a reason to believe.
Ledge And Dairy
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No, unfortunately there is just more than one bad egg on this site.oh, our capfriendly buddy has 2 accounts?
When you responded to our CF buddy's comment yesterday saying "how the f*** did you get off my ignore list" I actually died of laughter
