LeBrun: CBJ will be looking for a 1st round pick for Provorov once they are ready to move him

[ViD]

Rangers. 1st othmann and lindgren for Provorov and voronkov.

Voronkov is trending to become one of the best power forwards in the NHL. You’re not going to like the price tag for him

 

[Viqsi]

Voronkov is trending to become one of the best power forwards in the NHL. You’re not going to like the price tag for him

...I wouldn't quite go that far this early.

 

[noncents]

Voronkov is trending to become one of the best power forwards in the NHL. You’re not going to like the price tag for him

see my earlier question - who might fit as a cost controlled middle 6 F.

 

[DingDongCharlie]

I doubt he'd be the best D available before the deadline. That aside, he is a D that can play both sides, PP and PK and log 20 mins a night. He will fetch a 1st.

I'm sure Edmonton would want him if the money could work. 2026 1st + prospect/pick for him with some more retention.

 

[qc14]

Would be a good fit for Vancouver, Edmonton, and Minnesota

 

[samsagat]

He's certainly worth a late 1st pick, a good prospect plus a young NHLer..

 

[LokiDog]

I frankly think whether or not that'd work for us would be heavily dependent on whether or not Lindgren-Severson can be expected to be a good functional pairing. (Either that or we dodge the whole question and move on from Severson, but that's much easier said than done.)

If the Rangers had a good deal lined up for Provorov I could see them making Lindgren available to a different playoff team for a pick to recoup a bit. Doesn’t necessarily have to be Lindgren going to CBJ. Also Lindgren could go to CBJ as a pure cap dump for a couple months since he’s UFA and we don’t factor him into the price for Provorov so much, more just a temporary stop in Columbus to make the money work.

 

[Viqsi]

see my earlier question - who might fit as a cost controlled middle 6 F.

We don't really have good spares in that regard because we're trying to develop the depth we have rather than trade it for more deferred futures.

EDIT: Closest equivalent would be Olivier, but 1) he's more "high bottom-6" than "middle-6", 2) we'd much prefer to keep him rather than throw him in a futures package, and 3) while he has been working more on his offensive contributions in practice, his current offensive output relies on an unreasonably high shooting percentage.
There's one other name, too, but y'all don't get to ask about him.

 

[CoachWithNoTeam]

Provorov is averaging more time on ice than any other pending UFA. I think a 1st is par for the course for someone like him.

 

[noncents]

He's certainly worth a late 1st pick, a good prospect plus a young NHLer..

this sounds insane

 

[GKJ]

He will definitely return that

 

[HockeyVirus]

He is destined to be an OIler. Area of need and controversial office player.

 

[EdJovanovski]

Would be a perfect fit for the Rangers

 

[Rowlet]

He is destined to be an OIler. Area of need and controversial office player.

Oilers don't have a 1st so they'll have to add for next years

 

[HockeyVirus]

Oilers don't have a 1st so they'll have to add for next years

I don't see that being an issue. That player won't be in the NHL for another 6 years minimum. Their window is now

 

[ole ole]

Depending on who else is around i can see him getting a late 1st. Hell why not?

 

[biturbo19]

I'd be surprised if they didn't at least get very close to that, or "equivalent value". This deadline market for Top-4D who can play significant minutes looks pretty barren.

He's also the sort of "built for playoffs" type, with stout, rugged build, gets around pretty well, not a soft little offensive specialist or whatever. Teams always covet those types.


The other thing is...he's "cheap" which makes him easier to fit into more suitors cap situation at the deadline. Even more so if Columbus were willing to retain additionally on him for the rest of the season. Columbus could basically act as their own "cap intermediary" on secondary retention (and reap the extra trade value of that themselves). Heck, you could get him down to less than $2.5M. I believe CBJ still have the retention slots for that, right? That would add a lot of potential "value" and "demand" for sure.




I think he'd be a great fit for Vancouver. It's sort of risky, if they can't end up finding the right partner for him. I'm not sure who that would be tbh. Demonstrating an ability to play both sides now is a nice bonus, though probably a moot point with Foote's reluctance to play guys on their off side. But he's the sort of guy they're looking for, would add some more mobility and a bit of puck-moving ability...but still with that size they desire. I also feel like the Canucks coaching staff have had good success with defencemen like that who need to really "simplify" their game to be more effective.

I'd spend a 1st, particularly if there's additional retention.

 

[Rowlet]

I don't see that being an issue. That player won't be in the NHL for another 6 years minimum. Their window is now

Sure, I don't disagree, but all they have to offer is a future 1st, which will be beaten by any other teams offer of a current 1st

 

[HockeyVirus]

Sure, I don't disagree, but all they have to offer is a future 1st, which will be beaten by any other teams offer of a current 1st

I mean, a 1st doesn't mean a 1st I think it just means 1st round value. Oilers could get creative to make it work. Prospects, first next year, they have the picks they got from the Blues, etc.

2026 1st and Blues 3rd this year for Provorov 50% probably gets it done

 

[Brodeur]

What are they waiting for? They're in 7th place

If I'm reading CapWages correctly, 20 teams wouldn't have the cap space for Provorov without additional retention. Waiting until the deadline would hypothetically increase the number of suitors. At this point of the season, there's probably a few bubble teams who don't know if they'll be buying or selling at the deadline.

Trying to think of other examples of impending UFAs who were dealt relatively early. Buffalo shipped Thomas Vanek to the Islanders in October 2013 (with the Islanders intending to extend Vanek). New Jersey traded Taylor Hall in December 2019.

While you risk Provorov to injury (I think partly why the Devils traded Hall early), Columbus could also gamble on other teams having a top 4D get hurt which would increase the price tag potentially.

 

[Rowlet]

I mean, a 1st doesn't mean a 1st I think it just means 1st round value. Oilers could get creative to make it work. Prospects, first next year, they have the picks they got from the Blues, etc.

2026 1st and Blues 3rd this year for Provorov 50% probably gets it done

Pretty sure a 1st means a 1st. Most teams would probably rather make their own picks than Edmonton's picks from a few years ago. Even if Edmonton offers next year's 1st and a 3rd, any other team can still offer this year's 1st and a 3rd.