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Bobrovsky 2023 3.07 GAA
Bobrovsky 2024 2.37 GAA Stanley Cup Winner.

The one year of Swayman not below 2.5, playing on the worst Boston team in years, is the new normal?
So maybe the team in front has something to do with it and the goalie is only as good as the play in front of him in many cases.

Why would we think he'd be any better here on this team?
 
I’d ride Tarasov the rest of the season … he’s actually been really good since Jan .. as mentioned 13 goals against in the past 5 games … Elvis with 25 in last 5 and 2/3 of game .. Elvis is bought out this summer , do we know enough on Tarasov to let him walk ? From my understanding Jet has a one way contract next year as does Tarasov
 
Sadly, I think this year was lightning in a bottle and that run is over. I hope I am wrong, but I predict a return to true Jackets hockey next year. Bad, but not bad enough to get a franchise player.
Nah, we can only get better, a lot of young talent, a lot of cap space, good contracts for the most part
 
I’d ride Tarasov the rest of the season … he’s actually been really good since Jan .. as mentioned 13 goals against in the past 5 games … Elvis with 25 in last 5 and 2/3 of game .. Elvis is bought out this summer , do we know enough on Tarasov to let him walk ? From my understanding Jet has a one way contract next year as does Tarasov
I think Tarasov has potential to be a decent backup, but we definitely need a proven starter
 
So maybe the team in front has something to do with it and the goalie is only as good as the play in front of him in many cases.
Yep, it does.
Why would we think he'd be any better here on this team?
I think he’s calmer in the net, a little thicker, not as mentally weak and knows what a winning org looks like. He even has 4 shutouts this year, Elvis has 4 over the last 4 years total.
 
I think he’s calmer in the net, a little thicker, not as mentally weak and knows what a winning org looks like. He even has 4 shutouts this year, Elvis has 4 over the last 4 years total.
We've been a pretty sh*tty team. Imagine how bad he's been in the other games to have 4 shutouts and still have those numbers. If Boston is that bad and he has those numbers, imagine how much people here would complain at paying him 8+ a year for having similar numbers to Elvis currently.
 
Goalies are weird and it's hard to predict who will do well on different teams. Bob was an obvious example of that. Joey Daccord was a more out of nowhere guy. Adin Hill wasn't seen as much when Vegas picked him up. The teams in front of them have something to do with it obviously but not everything. Different goalie coaches clicking with different guys is probably pretty major in the grand scheme
 
This team is never going anywhere with:

1: Elvis Merzlikins as our starter.... he sucks

2: Line 4: Aston Reese is a good grinder..... Kuraly and Kunin are ECHL players masquerading as NHL guys

3: Severson sucks (thanks Jarmo?) Jack Johnson and Christenen are worse.

Everson.... I respect him getting this team into the playoff hunt. But since January it has been Pascal Vincent 2.0, and if you disagree let me know why.
 
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This one really feels different. I just watched the postgame and I have never seen this group or this coach this mad about a game - and its clear they're mad about the goaltending letting them down. I wouldn't be surprised if they're done with Elvis.

That said, Tarasov has had worse stretches. Like .700 bad for 2 or 3 starts in a row. It's really the timing of this with only 8 games left, I think we're at a point where we might ride Tarry and Jet the rest of the way and say goodbye to Elvis this summer.
 
As soon as I saw that Jack Johnson was in instead of Severson, I had a bad feeling about this one.

This one really feels different. I just watched the postgame and I have never seen this group or this coach this mad about a game - and its clear they're mad about the goaltending letting them down. I wouldn't be surprised if they're done with Elvis.

That said, Tarasov has had worse stretches. Like .700 bad for 2 or 3 starts in a row. It's really the timing of this with only 8 games left, I think we're at a point where we might ride Tarry and Jet the rest of the way and say goodbye to Elvis this summer.
Agreed. I think it's either going to be a buyout or maybe a trade to a team desperate for goaltending. Maybe Philadelphia?

The issue I think is who they replace him with. I don't think Tarasov's an option. I guess Allen and Lyon are the two interesting UFA options. Of the two, I'd personally prefer Lyon (more consistently good GSAx numbers) but I assume they'd prefer Allen (more experienced). It's hard for me to see any proven good goaltender realistically being available via trade. Swayman and Saros are not beyond the realm of possibility, I suppose, but highly unlikely and risky to boot at this juncture. After the Merzlikins contract, I'm not so sure that CBJ have much appetite for bringing in a struggling goaltender on a long-term deal anyway. Maybe they take a chance on Brossoit healing up next year after all?
 
As soon as I saw that Jack Johnson was in instead of Severson, I had a bad feeling about this one.


Agreed. I think it's either going to be a buyout or maybe a trade to a team desperate for goaltending. Maybe Philadelphia?

The issue I think is who they replace him with. I don't think Tarasov's an option. I guess Allen and Lyon are the two interesting UFA options. Of the two, I'd personally prefer Lyon (more consistently good GSAx numbers) but I assume they'd prefer Allen (more experienced). It's hard for me to see any proven good goaltender realistically being available via trade. Swayman and Saros are not beyond the realm of possibility, I suppose, but highly unlikely and risky to boot at this juncture. After the Merzlikins contract, I'm not so sure that CBJ have much appetite for bringing in a struggling goaltender on a long-term deal anyway. Maybe they take a chance on Brossoit healing up next year after all?

If we retain, someone will take in Elvis as a tandem goalie at $2.7m x 2. Yes the bigger question is who we go with.

I've also wondered about Shesterkin - higher upside but super risky for the same reason that Swayman and Saros are super risky.

Ottawa made the right type of trade that we would want to make - a simple upgrade of one goalie for a better goalie, adding in a first rounder. But who is our Ullmark?
 
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If we retain, someone will take in Elvis as a tandem goalie at $2.7m x 2. Yes the bigger question is who we go with.

I've also wondered about Shesterkin - higher upside but super risky for the same reason that Swayman and Saros are super risky.

Ottawa made the right type of trade that we would want to make - a simple upgrade of one goalie for a better goalie, adding in a first rounder. But who is our Ullmark?
Shesterkin still has solid GSAx numbers but he has an NMC.

EDIT: Oh, he has an M-NTC this season. Personally, I'd love to see Columbus make that trade.
 
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This one really feels different. I just watched the postgame and I have never seen this group or this coach this mad about a game - and its clear they're mad about the goaltending letting them down. I wouldn't be surprised if they're done with Elvis.

That said, Tarasov has had worse stretches. Like .700 bad for 2 or 3 starts in a row. It's really the timing of this with only 8 games left, I think we're at a point where we might ride Tarry and Jet the rest of the way and say goodbye to Elvis this summer.

they have every right to be frustrated with elvis’ play (if that’s their main reason of frustration)… why? because our xGF total was nearly the same as colorado’s.. yet they had 4 more goals than us.

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as other’s have stated, if we had even average goaltending, we could’ve won this game. a game that was entirely a must win with no excuses.
 
Shesterkin still has solid GSAx numbers but he has an NMC.

EDIT: Oh, he has an M-NTC this season. Personally, I'd love to see Columbus make that trade.

Shesty has a 10 team list until July when the new deal kicks in with a full NMC. So there's a decent chance we're on that list. But who knows, maybe he really likes Marchy or really doesn't want to go out West.
 
Shesty has a 10 team list until July when the new deal kicks in with a full NMC. So there's a decent chance we're on that list. But who knows, maybe he really likes Marchy or really doesn't want to go out West.

why are we even talking about shesterkin possibly being traded? that’s comical and absolutely naive. I get it, he has underperformed this season but they literally just signed him to be their 1C for the next 6+ years (I say 6 instead of the 8 that he signed for since the chances will be greater when it comes to getting traded near the end of his contract)

I agree with a lot of your posts but this one has me scratching my head… the thought of shesterkin being traded the year after signing the largest goalie contract of all time lol.
 
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why are we even talking about shesterkin possibly being traded? that’s comical and absolutely naive. I get it, he has underperformed this season but they literally just signed him to be their 1C for the next 6+ years (I say 6 instead of the 8 that he signed for since the chances will be greater when it comes to getting traded near the end of his contract)

I agree with a lot of your posts but this one has me scratching my head… the thought of shesterkin being traded the year after signing the largest goalie contract of all time lol.

I think comical and naive might be the words for it, if the Rangers are foolish enough to trade Shesterkin. And it wouldn't shock me.
 

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