Confirmed with Link: CBJ hire Mike Babcock as head coach (UPDATE: Under NHLPA Investigation)

[cbjthrowaway]

Didn’t the NHL already do some sort of investigation before the hire of Babcock? And found him good to come back.

So I assume anything happened before that can’t have any meaning now. Or else the NHL did a bad job (couple months ago) and now CBJ pays for that.

again: if this leads to the jackets having to fire babcock (even if it's deserved), the second another team tries to hire quenneville there had better be 10,000x the uproar against that as there has been here.

to be clear – there won't be, because the hockey media doesn't have nearly the disdain for quenneville as they do for babcock.

 

[majormajor]

Is this good or bad?

Neither, we're still in purgatory, it might last forever.

The NHLPA opened an investigation into Kyle Dubas last May (for hiring an agent from a company that also represents some of his players, something like that), and that investigation never reported and was never reported closed, it just runs forever.

 

[CBJWerenski8]

If Babs is fired I am nearly certain Vincent would get the job. It’s too late to interview someone outside the organization again.

 

[CBJWerenski8]

Neither, we're still in purgatory, it might last forever.

The NHLPA opened an investigation into Kyle Dubas last May (for hiring an agent from a company that also represents some of his players, something like that), and that investigation never reported and was never reported closed, it just runs forever.

There is no way this investigation goes that way. It’s too much of a story.

 

[majormajor]

There is no way this investigation goes that way. It’s too much of a story.

For sure, but if you were thinking that the NHLPA wouldn't leave an investigation open past 48 hours if it was just something minor, well I have news for you.

 

[GoJackets1]

If Babs is fired I am nearly certain Vincent would get the job. It’s too late to interview someone outside the organization again.

Yep.

 

[DJA]

Oh my. Russo doesn’t make stuff up. This is officially bad.

 

[Jive Pawnbroker]

If Babs is fired I am nearly certain Vincent would get the job. It’s too late to interview someone outside the organization again.

And if Jarmo is dismissed, then Basil McRae would be the interim GM (?).

 

[traffic cone]

And if Jarmo is dismissed, then Basil McRae would be the interim GM (?).

Nash?

 

[Monk]

Nash?

+1

 

[aRussian]

Oh my. Russo doesn’t make stuff up. This is officially bad.

That whole statement by Daly no longer feels like the “case closed” it did yesterday

 

[Jive Pawnbroker]

Nash?

I think the CBJ's version of Jonah Hill (Josh Flynn) has a better shot of getting the job vs. Rick but what do I know lol.

 

[majormajor]

Oh my. Russo doesn’t make stuff up. This is officially bad.

He didn't make anything up, he also didn't say anything.

 

[Monk]

I think the CBJ's version of Jonah Hill (Josh Flynn) has a better shot of getting the job vs. Rick but what do I know lol.

Ya know what? I'd be for that. Mostly because of the undeserved flack he's gotten here.

 

[DarkandStormy]

If Babs is fired I am nearly certain Vincent would get the job. It’s too late to interview someone outside the organization again.

Brad Larsen is available.

So is Bruce Boudreau.

 

[DougKnowsBest]

 

[traffic cone]

I swear this thing wouldn’t have grown nearly as this big if the season was already underway.

The Tomas Tatar signing wasn’t enough.

 

[Johansen2Foligno]

The more things change, the more they stay the same.

 

[Farmboy Patty]

If Babs is fired I am nearly certain Vincent would get the job. It’s too late to interview someone outside the organization again.

What if…(suspense music) Vincent IS THE LEAK!

 

[Monstershockey]

What if…(suspense music) Vincent IS THE LEAK!

 

[ThirdPeriodTurtle]

Kekalainen, speaking with The Athletic on Thursday, was asked if Babcock has been told to handle the sharing of photos with players and staff differently.

“We always have to learn from experience,” Kekalainen said. “There are safe ways to (share pictures) and I’m sure that we’re going to learn.”

According to Jarmo they learned about this and learned from it (seemingly a while ago) and I imagine that is the modification they made to Babs' approach. Seems simple enough.

This from the main thread (sorry major). IF this is how it happened, and the process was improved already before it became a news story, I would think it helps the CBJ/Babcock case and allow Babcock to remain coach and nobody getting fired. That would show that the internal processes work for these kind of issues.

I think the timeline is important.

Sadly my faith in Jarmo has gone so low that my take is that he meant they will now learn "going forward" (which probably isn't enough if it's deemed offensive by the NHLPA/NHL). I also think Babcock would have met with the older guys first anyway and not just in some random order...

 

[DoingItCoolKiwi]

Worst case scenario in my head would be that Babs stays and has a good idea of who exactly didnt like his antics. Easy to put young guys on bad positions and bench them, so it'd be easy to bully someone like that.

You'd think oldschool coach like Babs wasnt this petty of a person, but who knows at this point

 

[Monstershockey]

Worst case scenario in my head would be that Babs stays and has a good idea of who exactly didnt like his antics. Easy to put young guys on bad positions and bench them, so it'd be easy to bully someone like that.

You'd think oldschool coach like Babs wasnt this petty of a person, but who knows at this point

As long as this goes on, you have to wonder. Babcock is only signed for 2 years, and your younger guys you may want here longer. You have to take into account if these guys can co-exist.

 

[ThirdPeriodTurtle]

Some timeline thoughts from the recent TSN podcast. I'm a little wary of linking it because Aaron Ward early says Babcock is a pervert essentially parroting the SC guys, I just don't get this angle at all but oh well.

Ward: I don't believe Babcock will survive this

Anyhow the timeline, at around 12 minutes in, verbatim as best I could:

"I had a conversation with someone in Columbus that is not a hockey player, he is somewhere in the organization, who I made a joke (to), off the cuff, not expecting a response: How is it with having Babs there?
-It's enlightening in the capacity that we don't know how to take him, how to absorb him, how to read him. It is very uncomfortable.
And I asked why?
-He's pushed the social norms in this place to a point where we're all unclear on how we're supposed to react and how we're supposed to conduct ourselves.
And I was like "Oh", and I didn't ask any further because I didn't want to get this guy in trouble, but when the story comes out, I wonder if this is connected."

Ward didn't clarify how many days ago this was, but seemingly at least a few days ago, could be longer. Hopefully the front office has at least started fixing things before the story broke out or have something to prove they were going to...

 

[majormajor]

Some timeline thoughts from the recent TSN podcast. I'm a little wary of linking it because Aaron Ward early says Babcock is a pervert essentially parroting the SC guys, I just don't get this angle at all but oh well.

It's pretty easy to believe that Babs makes people uncomfortable (they knew that when they hired him), but I'm not taking Ward's word for it. I'm not going to listen to someone who leads off by calling him a pervert and doesn't provide any evidence to back that up.