Proposal: CBJ - CGY

[ViD]

To Columbus:
Jonathan Huberdeau (15% retained)

To Calgary:
Patrik Laine


Both players are rather struggling and might benefit from a change of scenery. Calgary gets a player with less term, but has to retain a bit.

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[Ledge And Dairy]

No thanks, not retaining for 7 years

 

[ViD]

No thanks, not retaining for 7 years

It’s only 15%

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

There's no way Calgary is getting out of that contract this easily.

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

It’s only 15%

Yeah and it's 7 years. Toronto retained on Kessel for 7 years at 15% too and that constantly messed with their cap

 

[Nanuuk]

To Columbus:
Jonathan Huberdeau (15% retained)

To Calgary:
Patrik Laine


Both players are rather struggling and might benefit from a change of scenery. Calgary gets a player with less term, but has to retain a bit.

No thanks. Huby will be fine. Not 100+ points fine, but fine.

 

[BB88]

No thanks. Huby will be fine. Not 100+ points fine, but fine.

Yes his amazing 55 point season was followed with 52 point season

But maybe next year! Or when he’s 35y

 

[Viqsi]

Not just no, hell no, and furthermore you are hereby ordered to surrender your CBJ fan card and report to the appropriate authorities for immediate extirpation. We did not need a replacement HFCBJ Laine Hater.

 

[HighLifeMan]

Retention over 7 years just isn't a realistic option. Nobody wants that Huberdeau contract and that's fine.

I'll give you Mangiapane for Laine.

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

Yes his amazing 55 point season was followed with 52 point season

But maybe next year! Or when he’s 35y

Posts like this are so pointless. Like what point are you trying to make? That you think Calgary should make this trade that is clearly bad for them?

Yes he's been bad and yes the contract is not good but that doesn't mean Calgary should just retain on him for 7 years to take on a different albatross

 

[crazyfisherman]

Wtf i say yes instantly as a flames fan. Thinking paying huberdeau for 10.5m for 7 years is better than 1.6m for 7 and 2 years of laine is nuts.

 

[ViD]

Not just no, hell no, and furthermore you are hereby ordered to surrender your CBJ fan card and report to the appropriate authorities for immediate extirpation. We did not need a replacement HFCBJ Laine Hater.

Other than his long term, a retained Huberdeau who still might have some star power in him is not a bad deal for Laine that’s at his lowest value ever without any add from us

 

[Viqsi]

Other than his long term, a retained Huberdeau who still might have some star power in him is not a bad deal for Laine that’s at his lowest value ever without any add from us

It's an absolutely atrocious deal and you should be ashamed. Huberdeau has nothing of that left. He's a top-6 winger, but that's not what we need, and certainly not at that cost. You're treating Laine as though he's a poison pill to be thrown away as fast as possible and actively seeking ripoff deals as a result, which just defies explanation.

 

[ViD]

It's an absolutely atrocious deal and you should be ashamed. Huberdeau has nothing of that left. He's a top-6 winger, but that's not what we need, and certainly not at that cost. You're treating Laine as though he's a poison pill to be thrown away as fast as possible and actively seeking ripoff deals as a result, which just defies explanation.

What do you realistically expect to get for Laine at this point given he wants to leave himself ?

 

[Viqsi]

What do you realistically expect to get for Laine at this point given he wants to leave himself ?

I don't care so long as we're not shackled to a similar contract for six more years.

 

[BB88]

Posts like this are so pointless. Like what point are you trying to make? That you think Calgary should make this trade that is clearly bad for them?

Yes he's been bad and yes the contract is not good but that doesn't mean Calgary should just retain on him for 7 years to take on a different albatross

Laine has 2 years left

That Huberbeau deal is a ….ng anchor and to get awat from it would be worth it 100%

You’ll get easily the same production with 5 years less term

 

[Jag68Sid87]

I would love to hear the conversation at the Jackets' first training-camp practice between Huberdeau and Gaudreau.

Oh to be a fly on a wall.

 

[Double Dion]

To Columbus:
Jonathan Huberdeau (15% retained)

To Calgary:
Patrik Laine


Both players are rather struggling and might benefit from a change of scenery. Calgary gets a player with less term, but has to retain a bit.

I'd do that in a heartbeat and I'm not a Laine fan. I don't think he's a good player. That Huberdeau deal is what makes our rebuild really difficult though. I think Kadri would be relatively easy to move. Huberdeau is next to impossible.

There's no way Calgary is getting out of that contract this easily.

Unfortunately you're 100% right. We'd need to retain 40+% IMO to even have a chance of moving it.

 

[DJJones]

No interest in retaining or Laine

 

[Fig]

I'd be interested in Laine, but not a deal like this. I'd actually want Laine across from Huberdeau if acquiring him.

I'd rather the Flames take on a bad contract than retain 15%. I'd be open to discuss other assets instead like the Mangiapane base mentioned earlier. But I'm aware that there might not be a trade that makes sense between the two teams either.

 

[majormajor]

Calgary says yes (quickly) and Columbus says no.

Even at $9m per year, Huberdeau is massively overpaid. A 50-60 pt guy without a two-way game is worth maybe half of that.

$9m x 7 is a disaster contract for Huberdeau, which says a lot about how bad his $10.5m x 7 is.

 

[VT]

To Columbus:
Jonathan Huberdeau (15% retained)

To Calgary:
Patrik Laine


Both players are rather struggling and might benefit from a change of scenery. Calgary gets a player with less term, but has to retain a bit.

Why another soft player?

 

[Bond]

Flames would do this in a heartbeat. No idea why Columbus would

 

[Volica]

Yes his amazing 55 point season was followed with 52 point season

But maybe next year! Or when he’s 35y

Wait until you see the Flames cap.
We have money to burn right now. Honestly this team will have a hard time hitting the floor over the next few years.

 

[Fig]

I don't care so long as we're not shackled to a similar contract for six more years.

How much of a plus would you want from the Flames if Kuzmenko for Laine was a basis? Expiring contract (flippable or extendable even), $5.5 AAV means you're saving 3.2 to attempt to weaponize further at the TDL. Would likely play most of the season.

Gives you a proper RW (if Laine was shoehorned incorrectly at RW) and he synergized with Huberdeau so in theory Kuzmenko could jump in across from Gaudreau and be a good fit.

EDIT:

How far off is something like:

Laine + Ceulemans
For
Honzek + Kuzmenko