Value of: Cayden Primeau

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Goalie prospect are not worth much. Didnt we go through this with Lindgren or whatever his name was?

Not all goalie prospects are created equal. Lindgren is decent but Primeau is not just some average goalie prospect!

certainly early in his pro career but he looks like a good one! His stats are much better than Lindgren in case you didn’t notice
 
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Mete, Romanov, Harris, Struble, Norlinder... if only fans would be patient and wait 1 or 2 years. I'm happier with Primeau + that LD depth for 10 years than Price + (the kind of LD Primeau would return in a trade) for 2-4 years.

Not all prospects pan out as you know... remember Tinordi, Beaulieu, Juulsen, Thrower, Pateryn, etc.
 

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I'm not a fan of Bergevin but if Primeau is not for sale, what do you say? Something completely absurd, and if someone bites anyway then run with it lol

Are there any Habs fans saying we should get a top center prospect for Primeau? You tell me

The thing is, we are not going to trade Primeau lightly cause he could very well be a NHL starting goalie.. or not. But if you had him, you would feel the same
 

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Not all prospects pan out as you know... remember Tinordi, Beaulieu, Juulsen, Thrower, Pateryn, etc.

Sure but naming random prospects who don’t make it or disappoint don’t mean others will be the same! Trends in development matter and there are many trending very well and way more than some of the guys you listed

Its not over with Juulsen yet either!
 

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Incoming people defending Juulsen :popcorn:

Sure, why not. You think it’s over? You could be right or wrong. His positive development was derailed by pucks to his face so it will take him time to show his potential again after missing most of his age 21 season
 

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Not all goalie prospects are created equal. Lindgren is decent but Primeau is not just some average goalie prospect!

certainly early in his pro career but he looks like a good one! His stats are much better than Lindgren in case you didn’t notice
We'll see. I remember Lindregn had a great few games and you guys wanted major pieces for him. Now where is he (serious question)?
 

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Not all goalie prospects are created equal. Lindgren is decent but Primeau is not just some average goalie prospect!

certainly early in his pro career but he looks like a good one! His stats are much better than Lindgren in case you didn’t notice

I remember the Lindgren stuff was pretty bad, habs fans were demanding a minimum of a 1st round pick and proclaiming him Price’s successor cause he played good for 10 games. Primeau’s definitely a better prospect than Lindgren ever was, but he’s still a goalie prospect and they’re never worth as much in a trade as they should be cause there’s so much uncertainty.
 

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Look, this thread gonna be like this:


1. Bunch of people telling MTL fans that a young goaltender HAS NO VALUE
2. Bunch of other fans ****ting on Primeau, saying things like " lol his GP is too low to give him value and NCAA/AHL are all useless league for stats"
3. Some russian fans saying that the big 3 is better than Primeau AINEC

And what about Montreal fans, where are they in this?
 

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Primeau is not just some average goalie prospect though! It’s early yet but he’s been elite level at every step along his development path!

If you had him in your system, you would not trade him very easily! Look at what he has done as a 20 year old and how he looks against Lindgren who is a decent and mature goalie prospect in Laval

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No, most wouldn't trade him. However, putting yourself on the other side, you also wouldn't give up substantial value for him.
 
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We'll see. I remember Lindregn had a great few games and you guys wanted major pieces for him. Now where is he (serious question)?

Don’t be disingenuous. Tell us what “major piece” you remember was being asked? I said 2nd or 3rd round pick and most Habs fans would say that was too much! At one point, Lindgren had very good NHL stats so a 2nd or 3rd round draft pick was a bit high but major piece? Stop exaggerating

You are not making a good point cause you are trying to pump up what was being asked and you are trying to say all Habs fans were asking the same which is so far from the truth it’s not funny
 

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No, most wouldn't trade him. However, putting yourself on the other side, you also wouldn't give up substantial value for him.

I’m not sure who created the thread but it’s pointless IMO. Cause we are not trading or shopping him. It’s too early to know but he is trending much better than Lindgren was
 

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Are there any Habs fans saying we should get a top center prospect for Primeau? You tell me

The thing is, we are not going to trade Primeau lightly cause he could very well be a NHL starting goalie.. or not. But if you had him, you would feel the same

Read my comment again. I did not say anyone expects a 1st line center (prospect or not). I was responding to a poster who was ridiculing Bergevin for "asking a top center", while obviously it's an absurd ask for Primeau, but it also sends a clear message: Primeau is a prospect Montreal wants to keep, hence they won't trade him unless a gross overpayment is offered.

In any case, if Primeau ends up being a top-notch goalie, thats a great timing for Montreal who will look for Price's replacement in a couple years


Sure, why not. You think it’s over? You could be right or wrong. His positive development was derailed by pucks to his face so it will take him time to show his potential again after missing most of his age 21 season

I hope its not over for him. He was doing well before his injury :) My comment was simply to poke fun at the fanbase not to take seriously :)
 
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And what about Montreal fans, where are they in this?

He’s a very good grade A prospect who is trending well! That’s what most Habs fans think!

Big goalie that has great mobility and has been elite level every step of his development path.

Lots to like and we’re not shopping him. He could be traded if the circumstance was right cause we have Price from 32-38
 

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Read my comment again. I did not say anyone expects a 1st line center (prospect or not). I was responding to a poster who was ridiculing Bergevin for "asking a top center", while obviously it's an absurd ask for Primeau, but it also sends a clear message: Primeau is a prospect Montreal wants to keep, hence they won't trade him unless a gross overpayment is offered.

In any case, if Primeau ends up being a top-notch goalie, thats a great timing for Montreal who will look for Price's replacement in a couple years




I hope its not over for him. He was doing well before his injury :) My comment was simply to poke fun at the fanbase not to take seriously :)

Things can change quickly for the good or bad. But honestly, why would we trade him for what others want? Makes no sense cause we are not shopping him

Its too early to know so we will let him develop and then see where we stand when he is NHL ready

However, let’s say Hall will do a sign and trade with the Habs. I’d do the Tatar, Primeau, 2nd offer I saw. That’s really the type of circumstance that prys him away
 
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So you want a Young Top 4 Dman, probably the most valuable player type in the NHL.

And you want to give up a Goalie prospect who hasn't even played an NHL game yet, probably the lease valuable type of player?



Ya.... Good luck with that one. I'm sure teams will be lining up with offers :laugh:
 

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I remember the Lindgren stuff was pretty bad, habs fans were demanding a minimum of a 1st round pick and proclaiming him Price’s successor cause he played good for 10 games. Primeau’s definitely a better prospect than Lindgren ever was, but he’s still a goalie prospect and they’re never worth as much in a trade as they should be cause there’s so much uncertainty.

I’m labeled by some Habs fans as overrating some of our prospects (right or wrong) and I remember asking for a 2nd or 3rd. Who the hell was asking for a 1st for Lindgren when he was trending well?

Don’t be like that and try to group Habs fans into one opinion! If you were on our boards, most would of said he was worth a 3rd or 4th or worse
 

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So you want a Young Top 4 Dman, probably the most valuable player type in the NHL.

And you want to give up a Goalie prospect who hasn't even played an NHL game yet, probably the lease valuable type of player?



Ya.... Good luck with that one. I'm sure teams will be lining up with offers :laugh:

Says who? Quote someone with your belittle claim?
 

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Things can change quickly for the good or bad. But honestly, why would we trade him for what others want? Makes no sense cause we are not shopping him

Its too early to know so we will let him develop and then see where we stand when he is NHL ready

However, let’s say Hall will do a sign and trade with the Habs. I’d do the Tatar, Primeau, 2nd offer I saw. That’s really the type of circumstance that prys him away

and I agree with you. I would not pass a ppg proven forward for a prospect who might end up being an above-average starter or even elite.
 
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I honestly don’t think you can find a young prospect who has similar upside that Primeau has where we would say yes. Not saying they don’t exist but the ones we would say yes too won’t be offered

You will have to offer a piece that does not have to be protected in the next expansion draft too!
 

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and I agree with you. I would not pass a ppg proven forward for a prospect who might end up being an above-average starter or even elite.

Nobody trades a proven young piece with contract term or RFA controlled for a unproven piece. Reality

I guess they do happen but they are rare. Drouin for Sergachev and a conditional 2nd? Circumstance played a huge factor on that one. Yzerman had a cap and expansion draft problem

Cant think of too many situations
 
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So you want a Young Top 4 Dman, probably the most valuable player type in the NHL.

And you want to give up a Goalie prospect who hasn't even played an NHL game yet, probably the lease valuable type of player?



Ya.... Good luck with that one. I'm sure teams will be lining up with offers :laugh:
That's one guy with 111 post asking for a young top 4 d-man but i guess that flew way over your head.
 

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