Confirmed with Link: Cayden Primeau Extended (3-Years, 1-Way @ $890K AAV)

[Habs Halifax]

It doesn't count because they weren't actually rebuilding. The rebuild is further ahead because MB was forced into selling a few times by his terrible roster construction but MB was always trying to make the play-offs.

It's clear Hughes and Gorton are doing an orchestrated rebuild.

It does count cause many of the previous pieces will be used by Hughes. Hughes is accelerating the rebuild but is not starting from scratch. I stand firm.

This is not a Coyotes or Blackhawks situation. More like the Rangers back a few years ago.

 

[Sterling Archer]

I’d think that this signing all but means Allan won’t get resigned.

 

[WeThreeKings]

It does count cause many of the previous pieces will be used by Hughes. Hughes is accelerating the rebuild but is not starting from scratch. I stand firm.

This is not a Coyotes or Blackhawks situation. More like the Rangers back a few years ago.

OK but this is the 2nd year of the rebuild. Not a scorched earth rebuild.

It's still the first concerted effort to rebuild the team with the goal of accumulating prospects and picks.

Bergevin did not do that, he had moments of selling when seasons were lost and that helps us start from a different place and not need to do what the Coyotes are doing. But, this is still year 2 of the actual rebuild.

 

[Runner77]

Hughes is using parts left behind by the previous managers.

Usually is the case for new management stepping in.

Unless you’re a scorched earth management like the Hawks have now. Man, I’d hate to be a fan of an org. getting a subpar return on a 24 year old sniper and ditching a 21-year old 6’4 skilled center that wouldn’t be that much older than whoever they’ll be bringing in.

Sometimes we just have to be appreciative of what we have.

 

[beowulf]

This one makes sense.

 

[Runner77]

I’d think that this signing all but means Allan won’t get resigned.

Allan won’t. But what about Allen?

So you’re going against the mighty Weekes and his usually reliable announcements.

How can you doubt a tweet that features an oversized Montreal downtown pic?

 

[Twisted Sinister]

I’d think that this signing all but means Allan won’t get resigned.

One would hope...

 

[Adam Michaels]

No, that is not depth. Every team should have 4 goalies on NHL contract and at least one spare goalie across all teams it fields.

The waiver wire is not the best place to find someone for the minors. It's best to acquire someone who already cleared waivers or is on AHL contract and could be signed to a 2-way deal.

You make no sense here. First you say they don't see Poulin as a viable option. Then you say they could sign someone who is on an AHL contract and can be signed to a 2-way deal. The Habs already have that option internally in Kevin Poulin. No need to look elsewhere.

 

[BLONG7]

This signing doesn't mean anything other than Primeau and Kevin Poulin will be the goalies in Laval.

Or Monty?

 

[Adam Michaels]

Or Monty?

Monty will be in the NHL.

 

[Ezpz]

We are literally in year 2 of an actual rebuild.

Yeah but the truth is you can't draft a franchise goalie behind the development curve of the rest of the team. They're not going to hit their prime for 5-7 years and by then Suzuki is already declining.

 

[Sterling Archer]

Allan won’t. But what about Allen?

So you’re going against the mighty Weekes and his usually reliable announcements.

How can you doubt a tweet that features an oversized Montreal downtown pic?

I have been known to express a certain amount of audacity lol

 

[BaseballCoach]

You make no sense here. First you say they don't see Poulin as a viable option. Then you say they could sign someone who is on an AHL contract and can be signed to a 2-way deal. The Habs already have that option internally in Kevin Poulin. No need to look elsewhere.

Logically yes, but the level of play matters. It seems the Habs don't see Poulin a full-blown AHL goalie, but rather an AHL/ECHL tweener. Last year they got Hammond for the role I am talking about, and only traded him at the TDL to do Jersey a favor and get some durable canned goods for the soon to be stale Hamburglar.

 

[Le Barron de HF]

Great contract, the one way aspect across the whole contract will turn off some teams if ever he needs to be waived next year.

 

[Walrus26]

Now he shouldn't feel bad if he's in Laval all year. He'll know it's because management feel it's what's best for him long term, as they've committed to him for 3 more years already.

And he gets close to $1m regardless for playing an AHL season. Sound business all round.

 

[schwang26]

I still believe that they will either send Montembault to Laval and grab a goalie off waivers to back-up Allen, or acquire an experienced goalie for Laval who has cleared waivers. They will probably have to do that to avoid Primeau being an injury call-up. Poulin is not even under contract with the team, and neither are the other two.

Monty isn't getting sent down. He's better than he gets credit for. I'm betting that he'll surprise a LOT of people this year. Especially if he can use the negatively towards his early play as motivation.

 

[schwang26]

I’d think that this signing all but means Allan won’t get resigned.

I never got the impression that was going to happen anyway.

 

[StCaufield]

I think Primeau should be the backup. I think stability is best for him as he’d be around the guys and feel more included. It probably sucks to be called up 30 times a year and could help mentally. He’d be facing NHL shots in practice also. Personally just think he’d grow better with the big club at this point! Looking more at the mental state here rather than getting him games in Laval

Monty isn't getting sent down. He's better than he gets credit for. I'm betting that he'll surprise a LOT of people this year. Especially if he can use the negatively towards his early play as motivation.

No he’s not better than he’s given credit for. No matter where he’s played for his professional career his numbers are scary bad

 

[BaseballCoach]

And he gets close to $1m regardless for playing an AHL season. Sound business all round.

Close to NHL minimum for two seasons and $1.1M for the third.

 

[kyne]

Monty isn't getting sent down. He's better than he gets credit for. I'm betting that he'll surprise a LOT of people this year. Especially if he can use the negatively towards his early play as motivation.

In a lot of ways he reminds me of Denis Herron of old during his KC and Pittsburgh years. He gets shelled but it doesn't seem to faze him. Instead, he seems to get motivated by it.

 

[Adam Michaels]

Logically yes, but the level of play matters. It seems the Habs don't see Poulin a full-blown AHL goalie, but rather an AHL/ECHL tweener. Last year they got Hammond for the role I am talking about, and only traded him at the TDL to do Jersey a favor and get some durable canned goods for the soon to be stale Hamburglar.

They see Poulin as an AHL goalie. Last year, he played 8 games in 3R and 30 in Laval. And he stayed there until the end. He is not a tweener. He will not be going between AHL and ECHL this year.

Not to mention right now, 3R has Desrosiers and Vrbetic. Last year, Desrosiers was mostly in 3R, but he was under contract with the Manitoba Moose and was only loaned to the Lions. Whenever he got called up to the AHL, it was there and not here. Right now, he's under contract with the Rocket. So if they need to, they can sign Poulin to an NHL deal and have Desrosiers in Laval with Primeau. And then they can sign someone on a PTO for 3R (or they can sign someone on a PTO for Laval and keep Desrosiers and Vrbetic in 3R if they choose to).

As for the Hammond option, I mentioned it in multiple posts that if someone falls to injury, they will have two options:

1- if the timing is synced and someone is placed on waivers at that time, they can claim him the way they did with Monty last year.
2- if the timing isn't synced and no goalie is on waivers, they can look to acquire a goalie in a similar spot as Hammond (goalie in the AHL who has NHL experience).

I am aware of that but would prefer an AHL quality goalie instead of an ECHL tweener if Montreal needs a call-up. Poulin was forced into the AHL by the injuries, but really has no business being there, let alone in the NHL

Yes he does have business in the AHL. I don't know if you watched any games, but he was solid.

I don't know if you consider an 18-8-3 record, a 2.34 GAA and a .920 SV% as not having any business in the AHL. In fact, he was much better in Laval than he was in the short stint he had with 3R.

 

[BaseballCoach]

In a lot of ways he reminds me of Denis Herron of old during his KC and Pittsburgh years. He gets shelled but it doesn't seem to faze him. Instead, he seems to get motivated by it.

One good thing though, Monty is twice the size of Herron

 

[lamp9post]

Yeah but the truth is you can't draft a franchise goalie behind the development curve of the rest of the team. They're not going to hit their prime for 5-7 years and by then Suzuki is already declining.

I agree with the bolded, but if a goalie prospect that fits our contention window doesn't emerge from the pipeline, then you look at trade and free agent markets. Simple as that.

 

[BaseballCoach]

They see Poulin as an AHL goalie. Last year, he played 8 games in 3R and 30 in Laval. And he stayed there until the end. He is not a tweener. He will not be going between AHL and ECHL this year.

Not to mention right now, 3R has Desrosiers and Vrbetic. Last year, Desrosiers was mostly in 3R, but he was under contract with the Manitoba Moose and was only loaned to the Lions. Whenever he got called up to the AHL, it was there and not here. Right now, he's under contract with the Rocket. So if they need to, they can sign Poulin to an NHL deal and have Desrosiers in Laval with Primeau. And then they can sign someone on a PTO for 3R (or they can sign someone on a PTO for Laval and keep Desrosiers and Vrbetic in 3R if they choose to).

As for the Hammond option, I mentioned it in multiple posts that if someone falls to injury, they will have two options:

1- if the timing is synced and someone is placed on waivers at that time, they can claim him the way they did with Monty last year.
2- if the timing isn't synced and no goalie is on waivers, they can look to acquire a goalie in a similar spot as Hammond (goalie in the AHL who has NHL experience).



Yes he does have business in the AHL. I don't know if you watched any games, but he was solid.

I don't know if you consider an 18-8-3 record, a 2.34 GAA and a .920 SV% as not having any business in the AHL. In fact, he was much better in Laval than he was in the short stint he had with 3R.

If the Habs saw Poulin as someone never to play in Trois Rivieres, they could have signed him to a 2-way NHL deal. They did not, so I have my doubts as to their evaluation of him. If they did not sign Poulin now, why would they do so if Allen gets the flu or Monty has a 12 day IR stint??

This only puts Primeau's stability at risk. I therefore think the Habs are looking for a goalie better than Poulin.

 

[schwang26]

I think Primeau should be the backup. I think stability is best for him as he’d be around the guys and feel more included. It probably sucks to be called up 30 times a year and could help mentally. He’d be facing NHL shots in practice also. Personally just think he’d grow better with the big club at this point! Looking more at the mental state here rather than getting him games in Laval


No he’s not better than he’s given credit for. No matter where he’s played for his professional career his numbers are scary bad

Anyone's numbers would've been scary bad last season on the Habs. Let's wait and see.

In a lot of ways he reminds me of Denis Herron of old during his KC and Pittsburgh years. He gets shelled but it doesn't seem to faze him. Instead, he seems to get motivated by it.

Holy crap. Taking it back a few decades with that comparison!