GDT: #CauseWinning: Canes @ Rongos Game 2 ("7pm" on ESPN)

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I'll give you the GA part of that line, but Svech is very hot and cold on the line. For every good play he makes he's taking 1 or 2 really stupid penalties or throwing the puck aimlessly to someone's skates or off target.

And the thing that gets me is that our bread is buttered not by having a strong defensive scheme, but by having an overwhelming offensive attack that cycles the puck endlessly until we break you down to score. That is what makes the GAJ line so deadly, because all 3 players have the same mindset and they're all on equal footing with offensive talent. The puck doesn't die on any one player's stick, and we saw that play out time and time again in the regular season. That line was scalding hot coming into the playoffs, but then we go away from it because we have this incessant need to load up defensively, often at the expense of the offensive cycle. And sure, the Staal line can cycle the puck, but they aren't going to finish anything. Even if you put Jarvis there, its easy to stop because you know you just have to cover his shooting lane. The Isles were poor enough they broke down a couple times and allowed him to get shots off, but that isn't going to happen against a team of the Rags quality.
I agree that Jake and Sebastian are the magic pair. I'm happy with Svech or Jarvis up there--just don't want the other one banished to StoneHandLandia. Jarvis especially deserves to be freed.
 

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Necas and Svech are supposed to be goalscorers, but they keep firing their high danger changes over the net.

Hard to score goals, when the only option is some weird deflection. Snipers need to start sniping.

To be fair, our snipers have hit so many posts these playoffs. It's unreal how many it's been in 7 games.
 

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Just came here to post this.

This right here is the main difference.

J Staal having one assist playing 120ish min so far isn't helping matters either, while playing between arguably the teams best offensive fwd Jarvis and one of the better playmakers in TT. I really don't understand this line at all. It's fine if Staalo and TT aren't producing offensively but for the love of god get Jarvis the hell away from him and let the kid work.

Watching the game last night its painfully obvious the Rags have got the Canes "system" down pat.

The Rags are getting to the Canes breakout pass spots along the boards before the Canes are, defensive zone exits have been painful.

The Rags are playing their defensemen deep who are getting to dump ins before the Canes are. Zone entries have been painful to watch, board battles are being lost left and right due to player positioning and matchups. It's almost like the Rongos know what the Canes are going to do before the Canes do, something that the between period talking heads have harped on for years now. They are too predictable.

To Rod the team is getting outworked, I see a team that's partially getting out coached and a coach that's refusing to change his gameplan.
 
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Just came here to post this.

This right here is the main difference.

J Staal having one assist playing 120ish min so far isn't helping matters either, while playing between arguably the teams best offensive fwd Jarvis and one of the better playmakers in TT. I really don't understand this line at all. It's fine if Staalo and TT aren't producing offensively but for the love of god get Jarvis the hell away from him and let the kid work.

Watching the game last night its painfully obvious the Rags have got the Canes "system" down pat.

The Rags are getting to the Canes breakout pass spots along the boards before the Canes are, defensive zone exits have been painful.

The Rags are playing their defensemen deep who are getting to dump ins before the Canes are. Zone entries have been painful to watch, board battles are being lost left and right due to player positioning and matchups. It's almost like the Rongos know what the Canes are going to do before the Canes do, something that the between period talking heads have harped on for years now. They are too predictable.

To Rod the team is getting outworked, I see a team that's partially getting out coached and a coach that's refusing to change his gameplan.
I mean hell WE do, and we're not coaches or paid analysts...we're just hockey fans watching and we know EVERY f***ING MOVE thy're going to make before it happens, because they're predictable AND telegraph every move. Just kneel down in front of Burns for a few seconds and he'll still blast it off you despite the fact he could easily move around you to shoot at that point. Team has better movement 5v5 than on the PP...it's F*CKING EMBARASSING
 
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Do they though? Do they care? Do they know? Because 10 or so PPs later they're actually getting more static as they go. Actions speak louder than words, and our history the past few years of doing exactly this is pretty deep. Win game 3 & 4 at home and it's a new series, but we have got to pull our heads out of our asses

They probably don’t know or care. They’re picking this RBA quote out of context, but Aho was seen in the locker room afterward laughing and saying “haha! I don’t care! I’m rich!” They never talk about these things but that did happen.
 

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Just came here to post this.

This right here is the main difference.

J Staal having one assist playing 120ish min so far isn't helping matters either, while playing between arguably the teams best offensive fwd Jarvis and one of the better playmakers in TT. I really don't understand this line at all. It's fine if Staalo and TT aren't producing offensively but for the love of god get Jarvis the hell away from him and let the kid work.

Watching the game last night its painfully obvious the Rags have got the Canes "system" down pat.

The Rags are getting to the Canes breakout pass spots along the boards before the Canes are, defensive zone exits have been painful.

The Rags are playing their defensemen deep who are getting to dump ins before the Canes are. Zone entries have been painful to watch, board battles are being lost left and right due to player positioning and matchups. It's almost like the Rongos know what the Canes are going to do before the Canes do, something that the between period talking heads have harped on for years now. They are too predictable.

To Rod the team is getting outworked, I see a team that's partially getting out coached and a coach that's refusing to change his gameplan.
Great points.

I’d also add that while Rangers dmen are playing deep they are often keeping 2 guys in neutral ice expecting a pass since dmen are getting to the puck first. That leads to an effective counter attack with players like Bread who can expose just two defenders. That’s been their plan to offset us for a couple of years now.

We need to change things up and make them pay.

Also, missing Fast and Pesce are bigger losses then it would seem on paper. It continues an unlucky tradition of losing key players every playoff year.

Rangers are healthy and per my previous posts we need to make them unhealthy through targeted physical play.
 

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Do they though? Do they care? Do they know? Because 10 or so PPs later they're actually getting more static as they go. Actions speak louder than words, and our history the past few years of doing exactly this is pretty deep. Win game 3 & 4 at home and it's a new series, but we have got to pull our heads out of our asses
Bring in Kurt Russell for a speech
 

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Credit where credit is due the Rangers have done a phenomenal job of pressuring the bumper and point on the Canes power play. This is where adjustments from the coaching staff need to come into play, and for all we know they have and the players just aren’t getting it done, that’s the side of it us fans just aren’t privy to.

Some will blame coaching others will blame player execution. But IMO, this has been an ongoing issue with this team for 5 seasons now, and that to me feels like more of a coaching issue.

I agree with others, if TDA is going to be in the lineup put him on PP1. TDA can at least walk the line, take a little time and try to actually make a play that gets through.

Burns looks cooked out there and it feels like his shots just aren’t getting through, there’s no hesitation at all with the puck it’s like hot potato, just sling it at the net. And WTF was Burns attempted kick the puck to TT or whoever that got about half way there that resulted in a NYR goal last night?

And call me crazy, or maybe it’s just my homerism for TT, but I think he’s looked better in Svech’s PP1 spot.

I guess while I’m bitching and complaining might as well bring up #2 or #3 center Jack “he’s got how many points?” Drury. If he’s your #3 that means Staal is your #2 (we all know this is what it is in Rods mind) which is not good. Great guy, hard working, decent at the dot but doesn’t belong in the top six of any competitive team in this league, period. Hell at least KK has shown he can go on a heater and he can’t be any more of a defensive liability that Drury, same goes for that Ruskie that flaps his arms about. Zib and Tro vs Aho and either Staal or Drury, oof.
 

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