Confirmed with Link: Casey Mittelstadt (2017, 8th) - Signed, #37

[LaxSabre]

Minnesota M Hockey‏ @GopherHockey -
#GOPHERS GOAL!!! CASEY MITTELSTADT WITH THE TAP IN!!
#Gophers knock of No. 1 Notre Dame in overtime!!
Casey did what Casey does best. A little stick work behind the blue line, a dish to Pitlick who fired one on net and Casey came back to tap home the game-winner.

 

[26CornerBlitz]

Another look at the GWG from last night.

 

[OkimLom]

It awesome to see he got the GWG, but he had uneventful game up to that point.

 

[Yatzhee]

It awesome to see he got the GWG, but he had uneventful game up to that point.

Just watched the whole game this morning, agreed.
He was rather ineffective outside of the OT goal.

 

[UnleashRasmus]

It awesome to see he got the GWG, but he had uneventful game up to that point.

Not every outing is going to be perfect. However, he rushed and continued the play. He continues to show that he plays the game to it's completion.

 

[OkimLom]

Not every outing is going to be perfect. However, he rushed and continued the play. He continues to show that he plays the game to it's completion.

Agree. It wasn’t necessarily an issue to me, just an observation. I’ve watched games where he has played above everybody.

 

[Chainshot]

It awesome to see he got the GWG, but he had uneventful game up to that point.

Just watched the whole game this morning, agreed.
He was rather ineffective outside of the OT goal.

I would agree with that, having watched most of it while flipping back and forth to the Michigan-OSU and Maine-UMass games. It's my comment about wanting to see him dominate at his level -- the production is there, but seeing him take over games would be most welcome. Against tough competition, it is an issue IMO. That's the room to grow for his game.

 

[joshjull]

I would agree with that, having watched most of it while flipping back and forth to the Michigan-OSU and Maine-UMass games. It's my comment about wanting to see him dominate at his level -- the production is there, but seeing him take over games would be most welcome. Against tough competition, it is an issue IMO. That's the room to grow for his game.

How much of a difference is there in overall team talent between MInny and most of the Big 10? How much of their success can be attributed to Mittelstadt? I ask because I've seen various comments from yourself and others that Minny doesn't have enough talent to go far in the post season.

 

[Chainshot]

How much of a difference is there in overall team talent between MInny and most of the Big 10? How much of their success can be attributed to Mittelstadt? I ask because I've seen various comments from yourself and others that Minny doesn't have enough talent to go far in the post season.

Yeah, they're a lot of grind and not a lot of talent. And when their goaltending lets in a clunker... it is such an uphill battle. Sheehy and Pitlick produce a little, so too can Novak, but Bristedt has been... I don't know where. He is not the same player he was in Fasching's final season (when he was a sophomore) and it shows on the scoresheet. He's got 3-2-5 in 28 games after racking up 30-point seasons the last two. I don't think Mittelstadt and Grant mesh at all and while Grant is having a good season as far as his production goes, I am left with the impression that they don't find one another. It's weird watching them collectively struggle to produce - Kloos and Lettieri were important and graduated from the forwards, but they haven't found a replacement for Bischoff's production from the blueline. Guys like Lindgren and Sadek and Glover are very much defensive bangers first.

 

[Chainshot]

And yeah, it's going to take a miracle for them to go deep into the NCAA tourney. They're 4th in the Big 10 with ND at #1 in the nation, OSU and Michigan ahead of them. If they piddle away these last few weeks of the year, they could piddle away one of the at-large bids.

 

[joshjull]

And yeah, it's going to take a miracle for them to go deep into the NCAA tourney. They're 4th in the Big 10 with ND at #1 in the nation, OSU and Michigan ahead of them. If they piddle away these last few weeks of the year, they could piddle away one of the at-large bids.

Thanks for the responses Chain.

I guess in my poorly worded way I'm trying to find out how Casey's seasons rates out in a few ways ......

1) within the context of his team. Is he doing about as expected on a team like this? better ? worse?

2) How does his season stack up against other true freshmen in their post draft season? With team context factored in as opposed to looking at just raw production numbers.

What made me think of it is you talking about wanting to see him dominate. Is that possible in the situation he is in? Or is that something he may need to learn at the next stage of his development (AHL or NHL)? Or maybe with another year in college?

 

[Yatzhee]

And yeah, it's going to take a miracle for them to go deep into the NCAA tourney. They're 4th in the Big 10 with ND at #1 in the nation, OSU and Michigan ahead of them. If they piddle away these last few weeks of the year, they could piddle away one of the at-large bids.

And that directly ties in to my concerns on Casey staying longer than a couple seasons with the Golphers.
He's only said he's thought "on what it be like to go pro:.
He's more than stated several times his commitment to a Golphers championship run.

 

[Chainshot]

Thanks for the responses Chain.

I guess in my poorly worded way I'm trying to find out how Casey's seasons rates out in a few ways ......

1) within the context of his team. Is he doing about as expected on a team like this? better ? worse?

2) How does his season stack up against other true freshmen in their post draft season(with team context factored in)? As opposed to just raw production numbers.

What made me think of it is you talking about wanting to see him dominate. Is that possible in the situation he is in? Does he have the support to make it happen? Or is that something he may need to learn at the next stage of his development (AHL or NHL)? Or maybe with another year in college?

I think he's doing well as a freshman on a team where the upperclassmen should have handled more of the offensive pressure. I still think he may be a cut below Keller or Boeser at the same point, maybe even Kyle Connor too, but I'd happily be wrong. Connor had Compher and Motte, Keller had a lot of excellent depth, Boeser had guys like Caggiula and Schmaltz supporting him. CM has flashes of excellent play that would likely help be strung together with a stronger supporting cast, no doubt. I'm torn on if it's possible for him to have that team around him with the Gophers even next year vs. turning pro and going down the path someone like Connor did with the majority of his first pro season as an AHL dynamo. Connor and Boeser both seemed to have linemates who helped to make their dominance happen but at the same time, they drew it forward out of those guys too -- it wasn't a one way street, no one coat-tailed there. I didn't see Keller as much in his freshmen season, maybe someone else who is steeped in BU viewing can chime in there.

I want to see him handle teams game planning to shut him down like Michigan did earlier in the season and still take over shifts. Maybe I'm being too fine in my assessment, because he does have that knack of finishing the night and out of three chances he's generated, one went in the net, even if he was relatively controlled the entire time. But for me, he's a cut or two below some of those other frosh at the same point. *shrug*

 

[Der Jaeger]

I think he's doing well as a freshman on a team where the upperclassmen should have handled more of the offensive pressure. I still think he may be a cut below Keller or Boeser at the same point, maybe even Kyle Connor too, but I'd happily be wrong. Connor had Compher and Motte, Keller had a lot of excellent depth, Boeser had guys like Caggiula and Schmaltz supporting him. CM has flashes of excellent play that would likely help be strung together with a stronger supporting cast, no doubt. I'm torn on if it's possible for him to have that team around him with the Gophers even next year vs. turning pro and going down the path someone like Connor did with the majority of his first pro season as an AHL dynamo. Connor and Boeser both seemed to have linemates who helped to make their dominance happen but at the same time, they drew it forward out of those guys too -- it wasn't a one way street, no one coat-tailed there. I didn't see Keller as much in his freshmen season, maybe someone else who is steeped in BU viewing can chime in there.

I want to see him handle teams game planning to shut him down like Michigan did earlier in the season and still take over shifts. Maybe I'm being too fine in my assessment, because he does have that knack of finishing the night and out of three chances he's generated, one went in the net, even if he was relatively controlled the entire time. But for me, he's a cut or two below some of those other frosh at the same point. *shrug*

I'm not getting to watch a ton right now. How's time and space for him compared to WJC?

 

[joshjull]

I think he's doing well as a freshman on a team where the upperclassmen should have handled more of the offensive pressure. I still think he may be a cut below Keller or Boeser at the same point, maybe even Kyle Connor too, but I'd happily be wrong. Connor had Compher and Motte, Keller had a lot of excellent depth, Boeser had guys like Caggiula and Schmaltz supporting him. CM has flashes of excellent play that would likely help be strung together with a stronger supporting cast, no doubt. I'm torn on if it's possible for him to have that team around him with the Gophers even next year vs. turning pro and going down the path someone like Connor did with the majority of his first pro season as an AHL dynamo. Connor and Boeser both seemed to have linemates who helped to make their dominance happen but at the same time, they drew it forward out of those guys too -- it wasn't a one way street, no one coat-tailed there. I didn't see Keller as much in his freshmen season, maybe someone else who is steeped in BU viewing can chime in there.

I want to see him handle teams game planning to shut him down like Michigan did earlier in the season and still take over shifts. Maybe I'm being too fine in my assessment, because he does have that knack of finishing the night and out of three chances he's generated, one went in the net, even if he was relatively controlled the entire time. But for me, he's a cut or two below some of those other frosh at the same point. *shrug*

Thanks for the response.

He's always struck me as a fast riser since the draft (in terms of putting it together going from HS/USHL to college) but in need of more polishing. Not sure where he would get that best going forward (college, AHL or NHL).

 

[Chainshot]

I'm not getting to watch a ton right now. How's time and space for him compared to WJC?

Considerably less. He's playing more physically mature people and they are taking it away. He still has the ability to create off his stickhandling -- he set the table once last night on a forehand pass from the top of the LW circle to someone in the slot who Morris stoned as an example -- but there is generally more to slog through. To his credit, the early mono and the recent bought of strep hasn't taken him out of the lineup, though it may have contributed to the Wolverines handling him so easily back in November.

Thanks for the response.

He's always struck me as a fast riser since the draft (in terms of putting it together going from HS/USHL to college) but in need of more polishing. Not sure where he would get that best going forward (college, AHL or NHL).

Woodhouse has offered me some compelling arguments for AHL when we've talked about him before, and I'm open to it, perhaps even more so watching what Tails is doing with the Amerks. If he's back for next season, it'd be real interesting to see what he could do modelling putty like Casey.

And it's not hard to see why some scouts were all over the place on him last season - there is some sort of "yeah, there is more" to his game (as opposed to "come on man, there is more" that some enigmatic guys have).

 

[joshjull]

Considerably less. He's playing more physically mature people and they are taking it away. He still has the ability to create off his stickhandling -- he set the table once last night on a forehand pass from the top of the LW circle to someone in the slot who Morris stoned as an example -- but there is generally more to slog through. To his credit, the early mono and the recent bought of strep hasn't taken him out of the lineup, though it may have contributed to the Wolverines handling him so easily back in November.



Woodhouse has offered me some compelling arguments for AHL when we've talked about him before, and I'm open to it, perhaps even more so watching what Tails is doing with the Amerks. If he's back for next season, it'd be real interesting to see what he could do modelling putty like Casey.

And it's not hard to see why some scouts were all over the place on him last season - there is some sort of "yeah, there is more" to his game (as opposed to "come on man, there is more" that some enigmatic guys have).

Definitely see that. Where you think, 'wow if he can do that I bet he can do this' . More of a 'he just needs to learn it or be shown how to' vibe. As opposed to the guys who can do things but don't work to make it happen consistently.

One big positive is the kid seems like a worker which is a great thing to add to his skills.

I think you're right about what Taylor could do with him. I hadn't thought of that and it makes me warm to the idea of him in the AHL.

 

[Chainshot]

It's going to take something heroic tonight. ND up 2-0 and the Gophers are being outshot 14-6 halfway through the game. That's 4 shots in the first and only 2 so far in the second.

 

[Chainshot]

Plays decoy and McManus scores. 2-1 now on the Gophers 8th shot.

 

[sabrebuild]

Assuming he puts together s physical development cycle like Reinhart did post draft year I think he would do really well in Rochester with deep forward group and steady structure. Continue playing against mature stronger players and a pro season. See how it goes.

 

[Chainshot]

Just as an aside, Notre Dame is damn good defensively and deserve their ranking. It's too bad Hurley isn't there as part of a championship-calibre team.

 

[Bonin21]

He had a BRUTAL giveaway to make it 3-1 which pretty much wrapped up the game, unfortunately.

 

[sabrebuild]

Just as an aside, Notre Dame is damn good defensively and deserve their ranking. It's too bad Hurley isn't there as part of a championship-calibre team.

Seems like in the last ten years Notre dame went from a Hockey after thought to a regular contender. What happened?

 

[Jim Bob]

Seems like in the last ten years Notre dame went from a Hockey after thought to a regular contender. What happened?

Jeff Jackson (ice hockey, born 1955) - Wikipedia

They hired an awesome head coach.

 

[sabrebuild]

Jeff Jackson (ice hockey, born 1955) - Wikipedia

They hired an awesome head coach.

I figured, just hadn’t looked into it. Good on em.
Thanks for the info.