Carson Soucy to have a hearing for Cross-check to Connor McDavid - suspended 1 game (MOD WARNING IN OP)

[Leonardo87]

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[LivingRentFree]

It’s definitely a swat. He’s completely off balance from the push.

Thanks for the pic, it shows it rather well.

Try swinging a bat while standing on one leg and see how hard the contact is.

It’s all about intent right? He tried to hit him much harder, but as you can tell by the rest of the playoffs, it’s hard for him to stay on his skates.

 

[NyQuil]

You realize there is a significant different in a base ball style slash happening in game (still doesn’t happen a dozen times) and happening after the game is ended. I can’t believe you are continuing on with this hopeless argument.

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You can’t seriously tell me this slash happens a dozen times in a game let alone after the game. Look at the wind up to the slash. You are completely out of touch with reality or just unwilling to admit you are wrong.



Look at the photo and the wind up. This slash doesn’t happen a dozen times during a game, let alone after a gsme.

Happens all the time.

The “wind up” is because he’s extremely off balance which incidentally significantly reduces the impact of the blow.

This just creates more support that the “two handed chop” was more of a “desperate swat”, so again, thanks for the still photo.

 

[Dust]

Let’s compromise. We will offer to triple the suspension and have Cole serve it.

Let's meet halfway. Instead of suspending Ian Cole, the winner of Dallas/Colorado series has to add him to their roster and he has to play him 3 games in the Conference Finals.

 

[WiLBoY]

How come they review that play but not plays like this

 

[Nemesis Prime]

Why is this being looked at? McDavid baseball swings his stick at a guy, and Soucy clearly tries to crosscheck him in the chest as retaliation. Not Soucys fault McDavid crumpled when Zadorov touched him.

"baseball swings"

Rent free indeed.

 

[dez]

Not sure how Bennett escapes punishment after tko’ing Marchand, but this is suspension worthy…guess with all the media pressure, the edited clip being shared and McDavy being who he is this is an easy one for the former knuckle dragger.

 

[ManofSteel55]

You realize there is a significant different in a base ball style slash happening in game (still doesn’t happen a dozen times) and happening after the game is ended. I can’t believe you are continuing on with this hopeless argument.

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You can’t seriously tell me this slash happens a dozen times in a game let alone after the game. Look at the wind up to the slash. You are completely out of touch with reality or just unwilling to admit you are wrong.



Look at the photo and the wind up. This slash doesn’t happen a dozen times during a game, let alone after a gsme.

Look at the video, not your screen grab that you think shows something it doesn't. That's not wind up, McDavid was trying to keep his balance from the first shove from Soucy.

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

The Oilers chances are pretty slim, particularly when the Canucks powerplay is outperforming theirs.

Did I see some people in here say the Oilers dominated the Canucks last night?

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Yes...the Canucks had one shot 5 on 5 after the first

 

[Bizzare]

Did I refer to it as his shin? I don't think I did, but okay. Lots have. Lot's have also called it a lumberjack swing or baseball swing, so accuracy isn't really the standard in this discussion right now.

One is a fact the other is opinion.

 

[Janvonpobben]

 

[LivingRentFree]

"baseball swings"

Rent free indeed.

BATTERS UP!

 

[WetcoastOrca]

The Oilers chances are pretty slim, particularly when the Canucks powerplay is outperforming theirs.

Did I see some Oilers fans in here say the Oilers dominated the Canucks last night?

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Hits 50 to 30!
This Canucks team is night and day from previous ones. They’ve been punishing the Oiler players physically all series. The longer the series goes the bigger that edge becomes imo. Plus McDrai playing half the game is to the Canucks advantage longer term.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

You realize there is a significant different in a base ball style slash happening in game (still doesn’t happen a dozen times) and happening after the game is ended. I can’t believe you are continuing on with this hopeless argument.

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You can’t seriously tell me this slash happens a dozen times in a game let alone after the game. Look at the wind up to the slash. You are completely out of touch with reality or just unwilling to admit you are wrong.



Look at the photo and the wind up. This slash doesn’t happen a dozen times during a game, let alone after a gsme.

It does when you get crosschecked in the chest after a game is over. That photo is McDavid trying not to fall over after he got shoved backwards for no reason. There was very little power behind that slash.

 

[ManofSteel55]

One is a fact the other is opinion.

Opinions can be wrong just as facts can be wrong. Comparing this incident to chopping wood or swinging a baseball bat is simply incorrect.

 

[TheBeard]

All the Oilers in here pumping their chest like a Soucy suspension gives them the edge and right back into the series.

As a fan of neither team correct me if I'm wrong, isn't it a 2-1 series with all three games by 1 goal?

 

[Dust]

Hits 50 to 30!
This Canucks team is night and day from previous ones. They’ve been punishing the Oiler players physically all series. The longer the series goes the bigger that edge becomes imo. Plus McDrai playing half the game is to the Canucks advantage longer term.

Hits is right up there with +/- as a useless stat. If the hits are one-sided, it just means that possession was also one-sided. You can't get hit if you don't have the puck.

 

[NyQuil]

It’s all about intent right? He tried to hit him much harder, but as you can tell by the rest of the playoffs, it’s hard for him to stay on his skates.

No, the result is always more significant than the intent.

The intent is a factor but not the defining one.

If you swing your stick as hard as physically possible and miss the guy entirely, is the suspension going to be longer than one that actually makes contact with the target?

The result in this case was an off-balance swing to the hockey pants of Soucy. I can’t believe people are trying to equate that to a cross check to the face.

 

[ManofSteel55]

How come they review that play but not plays like this

Probably because Ryan got a penalty for it.

 

[Byron Bitz]

Why is this being looked at? McDavid baseball swings his stick at a guy, and Soucy clearly tries to crosscheck him in the chest as retaliation. Not Soucys fault McDavid crumpled when Zadorov touched him.

When you throw a cross check you are responsible for where it ends up making contact

 

[Bizzare]

They really aren't a lot of the time. It's the same motion. A lot of the time, the only difference is if a guy touches with the stick or his gloves first.

Cross check requires two hands on your stick, Soucy did not have two hands on his stick on the first shove.

 

[Bust]

If you’re expecting a similar punishment, I think you’re going to be disappointed.

I'm not expecting anything. All I said were that the incidents were similar - which another poster has already agreed with.

 

[TheBeard]

Opinions can be wrong just as facts can be wrong. Comparing this incident to chopping wood or swinging a baseball bat is simply incorrect.

A fact can't be wrong. Facts are things that have been verifiably proven.

 

[WetcoastOrca]

It does when you get crosschecked in the chest after a game is over. That photo is McDavid trying not to fall over after he got shoved backwards for no reason. There was very little power behind that slash.

Come on man. Just accept he did a two handed slash. No need to try to rewrite what happened.

 

[Bizzare]

Probably because Ryan got a penalty for it.

So did Soucy!

 

[Ghost of Murph]

Substitute a 4th liner in for McDavid and its not even a topic and the league ignores it like it ignored the Bennett punch that took Marchand out. This is playoff hockey. Once the final horn sounds skate back to your bench and try to win the next one. Absolute joke if a Canuck gets more than a fine.