Confirmed with Link: Carrier to the Habs for Justin Barron

[Armourboy]

Barron was a highly mobile, offensive orientated defenceman in junior that made him a valued prospect. like many prospects, his development, once drafted, has definitely plateaued.

Barron is still possesses above average skating ability, has good offensive vision ( look at how many goals he scored in limited playing time) which allows him to both initiate and support offensive rushes, he walks the offensive blueline well using his good agility and puck handling skills and possesses a surprisingly good shot. It's defensively where Barron's game has considerable holes. His defensive acumen is suspect as Barron makes poor reads, does not really have/maintain good gap control and, despite his size, lacks the strength to control opposing forwards along the board or to box them out in front of his net. Barron, like many young defencemen, is very susceptible to a heavy forecheck and when pressed, he makes poor plays that places his team in trouble in the defensive zone. When forechecked, Barron has an unfortunate 'deer in the headlights' look. After watching him play a few games, you will know what I mean.

As a Montreal fan, I never like trading away skating ability and Barron is a better skater than Carrier. Barron is also bigger, younger and far less expensive than Carrier. While the trade may favour Montreal this year, it may not be the same over the following years if Barron's defensive game ticks up a notch. That is, of course, the big 'if' in this transaction. From Nashville's perspective, this is a bit of a swing for the fences trade. Barron will score goals for you. The question will be if his defensive lapses will cause more goals against.

As I said, you trade away skating ability at your team's peril.

He will fit right in. Brunette will just say a mistake was bad luck and bench Evangelista or something for it.

 

[herzausstein]

He will fit right in. Brunette will just say a mistake was bad luck and bench Evangelista or something for it.

He is under the age of 26 so he will take his pressboxing like all the other younger players

 

[ismelofhockey]

I believe I might be an expert on that. I have a degree in sports medicine and I have a degree in business administration.

Fact is woah mama. Quebec has the highest taxes in Canada I believe at Carrier’s tax bracket he will be taxed 55% no I am not joking 55%.

Which leads me to a question did Montreal go? “Does he speak French?”

Barry Trotz went “is he a big player?”

Trotz is going big and young

Not specifically addressed to you, but just continuing the conversation. Here's a website that allows to calculate taxes in Canada: 2024 Income Tax Calculator Québec
Very few people pay the top bracket. And for those that might be wondering, the brackets are progressive i.e. on a salary of $100,000 you'd pay 31% in income tax before deductions.

On a salary of $3,750,000, Carrier will pay $1,968,806 in federal and provincial taxes before the deductions that his accountant(s) is sure to get for him. However, since he'll be paid in American dollars and his expenses will be in Canadian dollars, he will get an approximately 33% bonus on his purchasing power. If you also bear in mind that Carrier's health insurance costs will more or less disappear and that properties in Montreal are still quite cheap compared to most North American cities, then suddenly playing in Quebec doesn't seem all that difficult financially.

Montreal wanted a stabilizing presence on a very young blueline, and Trotz wanted to send a message to his players to shape up. The fact Carrier speaks French is just a bonus.

 

[triggrman]

Not specifically addressed to you, but just continuing the conversation. Here's a website that allows to calculate taxes in Canada: 2024 Income Tax Calculator Québec
Very few people pay the top bracket. And for those that might be wondering, the brackets are progressive i.e. on a salary of $100,000 you'd pay 31% in income tax before deductions.

On a salary of $3,750,000, Carrier will pay $1,968,806 in federal and provincial taxes before the deductions that his accountant(s) is sure to get for him. However, since he'll be paid in American dollars and his expenses will be in Canadian dollars, he will get an approximately 33% bonus on his purchasing power. If you also bear in mind that Carrier's health insurance costs will more or less disappear and that properties in Montreal are still quite cheap compared to most North American cities, then suddenly playing in Quebec doesn't seem all that difficult financially.

Montreal wanted a stabilizing presence on a very young blueline, and Trotz wanted to send a message to his players to shape up. The fact Carrier speaks French is just a bonus.

Curious. Do you guys have sales or property tax?

 

[nine_inch_fang]

Currently eating hotdogs and popcorn with Jusso.

 

[Kat Predator]

Currently eating hotdogs and popcorn with Jusso.

As long as we're on this mini hot streak with a modest amount of offensive production, going from 8 to 10 wins, and adding some OT loser points, we probably shouldn't expect many/any changes to the lineup unless there are injuries.

 

[herzausstein]

Well with all the injuries healed up... where would we realistically slot Barron?

Blankenburg and Wilsby have been very good.

Josi, Lauzon, Schenn, Skjei arent getting benched.

I dont think you bench players playing well for someone that hasnt even had enough practice to learn the system.

 

[nine_inch_fang]

Well with all the injuries healed up... where would we realistically slot Barron?

Blankenburg and Wilsby have been very good.

Josi, Lauzon, Schenn, Skjei arent getting benched.

I dont think you bench players playing well for someone that hasnt even had enough practice to learn the system.

The "aren't getting benched" list is and has been the problem.

 

[Porter Stoutheart]

Well with all the injuries healed up... where would we realistically slot Barron?

Blankenburg and Wilsby have been very good.

Josi, Lauzon, Schenn, Skjei arent getting benched.

I dont think you bench players playing well for someone that hasnt even had enough practice to learn the system.

I wonder if there comes a point where you don’t “bench” Schenn, but rather uh “rest” him?

And what system exactly does Barron need to learn? Rush, let the forwards cover for anything you want to do, it might be something it sorta sounds like would already suit Barron?

 

[Kat Predator]

I wonder if there comes a point where you don’t “bench” Schenn, but rather uh “rest” him?

And what system exactly does Barron need to learn? Rush, let the forwards cover for anything you want to do, it might be something it sorta sounds like would already suit Barron?

I strongly suspect it is more "gee, this lineup seems to be working" than anything else.

If we go into another tailspin, Bruno'll be pulling levers, mashing buttons, and spinning dials.

 

[nine_inch_fang]

I strongly suspect it is more "gee, this lineup seems to be working" than anything else.

If we go into another tailspin, Bruno'll be pulling levers, mashing buttons, and spinning dials.

"Working" is a relative term this year isn't it.

 

[Kat Predator]

"Working" is a relative term this year isn't it.

Very.

 

[tinyzombies]

Not specifically addressed to you, but just continuing the conversation. Here's a website that allows to calculate taxes in Canada: 2024 Income Tax Calculator Québec
Very few people pay the top bracket. And for those that might be wondering, the brackets are progressive i.e. on a salary of $100,000 you'd pay 31% in income tax before deductions.

On a salary of $3,750,000, Carrier will pay $1,968,806 in federal and provincial taxes before the deductions that his accountant(s) is sure to get for him. However, since he'll be paid in American dollars and his expenses will be in Canadian dollars, he will get an approximately 33% bonus on his purchasing power. If you also bear in mind that Carrier's health insurance costs will more or less disappear and that properties in Montreal are still quite cheap compared to most North American cities, then suddenly playing in Quebec doesn't seem all that difficult financially.

Montreal wanted a stabilizing presence on a very young blueline, and Trotz wanted to send a message to his players to shape up. The fact Carrier speaks French is just a bonus.

Ah, but his salary isn't 3750000 for purposes of Canadian taxes. You have to convert it to CDN (5,385,937.61), and hence he will pay more taxes in CDN dollars, no? Still a massive discount for dollar and cost of living, tho I think many if not most US cities are still cheap for these guys. And if you play in NY, LA, San Jose, you can also make a lot of money on real estate. None of these guys are hurting, not matter what Allan whatsis would have you guys believe. Not to say Canada does not need to cut taxes, there's not much of a military to pay for here, so... there needs to be massive cuts somewhere. Lots of money funneled to the private side of healthcare from what I've heard. Not an expert tho... and education is a massive slice, but you can't raise tuition now with the cost of living the way it is.

 

[Kat Predator]

Has anyone posted this highlight video? It includes him stretching, scoring a goal and falling down, shying away from contact, interfering with his own goalie, and several seeing-eye goals from the blue line.

Justin Barron

 

[le_sean]

Curious. Do you guys have sales or property tax?

Yes. About 15% sales tax (5% federal, 9.975% provincial).

Property tax also, but it’s quite minimal (for a millionaire) and depends where you are in the city. For instance, in my neighbourhood, a $500K valued house would probably be about $4,000/year in property taxes (something like $3,500 for property, $500 for school).

 

[Bringer of Jollity]

 

[HuGort]

Not specifically addressed to you, but just continuing the conversation. Here's a website that allows to calculate taxes in Canada: 2024 Income Tax Calculator Québec
Very few people pay the top bracket. And for those that might be wondering, the brackets are progressive i.e. on a salary of $100,000 you'd pay 31% in income tax before deductions.

On a salary of $3,750,000, Carrier will pay $1,968,806 in federal and provincial taxes before the deductions that his accountant(s) is sure to get for him. However, since he'll be paid in American dollars and his expenses will be in Canadian dollars, he will get an approximately 33% bonus on his purchasing power. If you also bear in mind that Carrier's health insurance costs will more or less disappear and that properties in Montreal are still quite cheap compared to most North American cities, then suddenly playing in Quebec doesn't seem all that difficult financially.

Montreal wanted a stabilizing presence on a very young blueline, and Trotz wanted to send a message to his players to shape up. The fact Carrier speaks French is just a bonus.

He loses over half? Holy

 

[HabsAddict]

Barron despite playing with a Xhekaj the Beast as a partner was shy about heavy contact. It didn't make for a great partnership because X needs an experience partner.

Carrier is playing with a defensive defenseman Guhle and bringing his puck carrier, skating and passing.

Carrier is working out for us for now. We got two highly rated prospects in Reinbacher and Mailloux. One is healing from a major injury and other needs to bring his defensive side to another level. Carrier gives us time...and makes Savard tradeable.

Hope Barron takes some pain pills and puts his body on the line. He has no elite skill that will allow him to be so weak about that.

Good luck...

 

[herzausstein]

Barron despite playing with a Xhekaj the Beast as a partner was shy about heavy contact. It didn't make for a great partnership because X needs an experience partner.

Carrier is playing with a defensive defenseman Guhle and bringing his puck carrier, skating and passing.

Carrier is working out for us for now. We got two highly rated prospects in Reinbacher and Mailloux. One is healing from a major injury and other needs to bring his defensive side to another level. Carrier gives us time...and makes Savard tradeable.

Hope Barron takes some pain pills and puts his body on the line. He has no elite skill that will allow him to be so weak about that.

Good luck...

He seemed pretty decent tonight. He has put 5 hits together in his 3 appearances so far for us. Honestly, this team has no real structure unless you call a dumpster fire a strategy. I expect nothing out of him and am just glad to be out of Carrier's contract

 

[HabsAddict]

He seemed pretty decent tonight. He has put 5 hits together in his 3 appearances so far for us. Honestly, this team has no real structure unless you call a dumpster fire a strategy. I expect nothing out of him and am just glad to be out of Carrier's contract

He's not exactly a small guy at 6'2" and 205 pounds so he should pull his weight physically. Hopefully he matures and steps up for you.

 

[Bye Bye Blueston]

I liked Barron tonight. Curious to see how he looks if he gets string of games to get feet under him.

 

[Byrddog]

Predators Reportedly Received Incorrect Information on Justin Barron Ahead of Trade With Montreal

Even though the trade between the Montreal Canadiens and the Nashville Predators is still recent, it's turning out to be a major win for Kent Hughes

www.habsfanatics.com

 

[AtlantaWhaler]

Predators Reportedly Received Incorrect Information on Justin Barron Ahead of Trade With Montreal

Even though the trade between the Montreal Canadiens and the Nashville Predators is still recent, it's turning out to be a major win for Kent Hughes

www.habsfanatics.com

Meh… that’s just Lavoie’s rehashed opinion. Still lots of overrating of Carrier.

 

[Byrddog]

Meh… that’s just Lavoie’s rehashed opinion. Still lots of overrating of Carrier.

The part I took interest in was that Trotz May have been misinformed by the Habs and the Preds recruiting staff. I have been Leary of the scouts for years. And this did nothing to improve that .

 

[Kat Predator]

Meh… that’s just Lavoie’s rehashed opinion. Still lots of overrating of Carrier.

We may not be that excited about Carrier and his contract and his role in the Brunette system, but the fact is that he is an experienced NHL d-man and can play a role on an NHL team.

We traded him for an AHLer. Even if you disagree that the scouts were "fooled" or asleep on the job, it was a loser trade from the Predators direction. Yet another one. And taken together with foolish moves like waiving a top pairing d-man in Fabbro, it's clear who is the chump and which team's management is blowing player evaluations.