Confirmed with Link: Carrier to the Habs for Justin Barron

[nine_inch_fang]

Trotz has really turned into a shitstorm of word salad, hasn't he? Just say whatever to justify anything. That's the kind of conceit in a GM that buries a franchise.

 

[Viqsi]

I didn’t realize how short Blanks was

Yeah, it's funny how I seem to like a lot of short guys. Go figure, eh?

 

[BigFatCat999]

Yeah, it's funny how I seem to like a lot of short guys. Go figure, eh?

Is this slam at my height?

 

[Viqsi]

Is this slam at my height?

It's more intended as good-natured ribbing than a slam. That and other guys on my favorites list include the likes of Ryan Ellis and Cam Atkinson and Nathan Gerbe...

EDIT: In the interest of equal time for anyone else watching: Y'know how there's a concept of "plus-size"? I'm kind of plus-plus-plus size. Come from a family of large people; everyone is thickly built and broadshouldered.

 

[herzausstein]

Trotz has really turned into a shitstorm of word salad, hasn't he? Just say whatever to justify anything. That's the kind of conceit in a GM that buries a franchise.

Supposedly wanted Annunen as well last season... so was he looking to pre-empt an Askarov trade request by going after the AVs perceived future goalie at the time or were we looking to get a bigger package from the AVs for Saros or Askarov with Annunen being part of the return? Kindof an off insight that we were looking to get him

 

[BigFatCat999]

It's more intended as good-natured ribbing than a slam. That and other guys on my favorites list include the likes of Ryan Ellis and Cam Atkinson and Nathan Gerbe...

EDIT: In the interest of equal time for anyone else watching: Y'know how there's a concept of "plus-size"? I'm kind of plus-plus-plus size. Come from a family of large people; everyone is thickly built and broadshouldered.

You’re OK this just me being crabby because I haven’t eaten yet. It’s past noon

 

[Top 6 Spaling]

"We felt comfortable trading this guy away because we trusted the guy currently on waivers who might also be gone today"

Thanks Barry, very cool

 

[Porter Stoutheart]

I guess trotz wanted Barron last year too

Also this seems odd considering we just waived DelG but whatever

Yeah, I totally want an NHL defense that is:

Josi - Barron
Skjei - Schenn
Wilsby - Blankenburg
Stastney -
Del Gaizo -

That's a Cup-winning formula.

 

[herzausstein]

Yeah, I totally want an NHL defense that is:

Josi - Barron
Skjei - Schenn
Wilsby - Blankenburg
Stastney -
De Gaizo -

That's a Cup-winning formula.

I mean... i dont think we have a cup winning team either way so unless Barry pulls some real magic and gets crazy we are SOL.

 

[Top 6 Spaling]

Yeah, I totally want an NHL defense that is:

Josi - Barron
Skjei - Schenn
Wilsby - Blankenburg
Stastney -
De Gaizo -

That's a Cup-winning formula.

Calder Cup, maybe

 

[Soundgarden]

I mean, we're obviously gunning for pick no.1. We look more promising with Molendyk and Gibson coming soon.

 

[herzausstein]

I mean, we're obviously gunning for pick no.1. We look more promising with Molendyk and Gibson coming soon.

You cant over marinate a prospect - Barry Trotz

We will see those two in 2028

 

[triggrman]

I'll be honest. To me, Wilsby, Stastney and Blankenburg are far better than, Carrier, Lauzon, Del Gaizo.

I like the more mobile direction the defense is taken. I'm just wondering though, isn't there still one that might be out of place.......

 

[herzausstein]

Well del gaizo did clear waivers and we still have gravel. So our d pairs tonight likely look like the last game.

 

[Runner77]

Trotz looks silly, though. I’m still pulling for NoNeck to get this thing right.

He did. Satisfied his fantasy about a potential neck transplant.

 

[herzausstein]

He did. Satisfied his fantasy about a potential neck transplant.

That neck will lose three inches under the stress of the extra head weight but it is still an overall gain for Trotz

 

[Flgatorguy87]

That neck will lose three inches under the stress of the extra head weight but it is still an overall gain for Trotz

Never considered the compression theory for Trotzy's neck...it's valid

 

[Kat Predator]

Yeah, I totally want an NHL defense that is:

Josi - Barron
Skjei - Schenn
Wilsby - Blankenburg
Stastney -
Del Gaizo -

That's a Cup-winning formula.

Not for the Admirals.

If we keep using up defenders like hot pockets, KT is going to be coaching how to slide traffic barrels around and pretend they are teammates.

PS: I'm still a little blown away by some of these quotes. How is it that just now we realized that a 160-ish lbs. defenseman, who we just signed to a nice extension, isn't going to hold up well to being pounded by bigger, stronger players or be able to move them easily from in front of the net? Was that information not coming through our tinfoil hats or something? (Guess we don't want to ask anything about Blankenpuck.)

 

[Bringer of Jollity]

I guess trotz wanted Barron last year too

Also this seems odd considering we just waived DelG but whatever

Trotz is confident in going forward with...a guy we just waived, a guy who hasn't played a minute this season, and two guys with a combined about...10 games NHL experience. This after cutting loose two guys with a few hundred games of NHL experience he had a year and a half to observe closely and elected to sign to extensions?

 

[Viqsi]

Trotz is confident in going forward with...a guy we just waived, a guy who hasn't played a minute this season, and two guys with a combined about...10 games NHL experience. This after cutting loose two guys with a few hundred games of NHL experience he had a year and a half to observe closely and elected to sign to extensions?

making sense is not required

 

[Guess]

We're going 100% lefty. It's genius.

Barron is a RHD

 

[Runner77]

That neck will lose three inches under the stress of the extra head weight but it is still an overall gain for Trotz

This is the real gain Trotz was after but sometimes you gotta be careful what you wish for.

 

[Flgatorguy87]

This is the real gain Trotz was after but sometimes you gotta be careful what you wish for.

He looks like the Goomba from Super Mario Brothers circa 1993

 

[ChesterNimitz]

Because:
1) Barron has been featured in a metric f***ton of random Habs fans proposals, which has convinced people he's near worthless, and
2) Folks still think of Nashville as that place where if you've never heard of the defenseman in question, that probably means they're good. Recent examples that would be cited include Fabbro and Ekholm.

So they're severely overvaluing Carrier and slightly undervaluing Barron.

Barron was a highly mobile, offensive orientated defenceman in junior that made him a valued prospect. like many prospects, his development, once drafted, has definitely plateaued.

Barron still possesses above average skating ability, has good offensive vision ( look at how many goals he scored in limited playing time) which allows him to both initiate and support offensive rushes, he walks the offensive blueline well using his good agility and puck handling skills and possesses a surprisingly good shot. It's defensively where Barron's game has considerable holes. His defensive acumen is suspect as Barron makes poor reads, does not really have/maintain good gap control and, despite his size, lacks the strength to control opposing forwards along the boards or to box them out in front of his net. Barron, like many young defencemen, is very susceptible to a heavy forecheck and when pressed, he makes poor plays that places his team in trouble in the defensive zone. When forechecked, Barron has an unfortunate 'deer in the headlights' look. After watching him play a few games, you will know what I mean.

As a Montreal fan, I never like trading away skating ability and Barron is a better skater than Carrier. Barron is also bigger, younger and far less expensive than Carrier. While the trade may favour Montreal this year, it may not be the same over the following years if Barron's defensive game ticks up a notch. That is, of course, the big 'if' in this transaction. From Nashville's perspective, this is a bit of a swing for the fences trade. Barron will score goals for you. The question will be if his defensive lapses will cause more goals against.

As I said, you trade away skating ability at your team's peril.

 

[herzausstein]

Defensive lapses is the bread and butter of our defense. He will fit right in