Proposal: Carolina - Toronto

[Bjornar Moxnes]

A trade to maybe help both sides in the long term.

Carolina

Justin Faulk - I know that he is a great player but he probably brings back the most value in trade and he opens a spot for Trevor Carrick who I think will adequately replace Faulf a PP quarterback.

Elias Lindholm - Talented player but starting to have a Yakupov vibe to him. He is young enough for the Leafs to take a shot and see if a change of scenery makes a difference

Bryan Bickell - Leafs flex their financial muscle and take the salary of Bickell for the final year.

Toronto

Nazem Kadri - A solid 2-3 centre who has offensive ability and has embraced a shut down role this year. Similar contract to Faulk but an extra year.

Kasperi Kapanen - I think he is going to be a really good player in the NHL but to get a great player like Faulk you have to give up quality.

Jeremy Bracco - A high skilled player who is having a good year in the OHL. Leafs have a lot of these so giving up Bracco is a little easier to swallow.

Conditional 2018 2nd Round Pick - A second round pick if Lindholm scores 45+ points in the 2017-18 season or a third if he does not.

LOL if this is all it takes, sign me up as a Flames fan. Monahan and Jokipakka for Faulk and Lindholm, no take backs lol.

 

[pheasant]

I'm a Leafs fan, and I think the original offer is a joke. I am sorry that other fans had to read it, it is clearly an insult to just offer expendable pieces for an incredible player like Faulk. It's pretty obvious that some of the TO fans don't even really know who the guy is. Why would anyone trade a 23+ minute D man with offensive skill (and wears a letter) for Kadri and pocket change? And they have to add, too?

To try to save the thread, how about a legit discussion abut Carolina really needs as a team? They do seem to be in flux at the moment.

I, personally, wouldn't flinch about giving the moon for Faulk. Nylander would need to be on the table to start discussions. But even if trading him is a no-go, what does Carolina really need? Wingers? A future goalie?

 

[Chan790]

I, personally, wouldn't flinch about giving the moon for Faulk. Nylander would need to be on the table to start discussions. But even if trading him is a no-go, what does Carolina really need? Wingers? A future goalie?

A 1C, goal-scoring and a "now" goalie. We have a future goalie. Pretty sure Faulk doesn't get moved without a comparable young 1C going the other way.

Doubt Faulk gets moved this season, even if we get offered a solution to every need though; we need that leadership on the blueline.

 

[pheasant]

A 1C, goal-scoring and a "now" goalie. We have a future goalie. Pretty sure Faulk doesn't get moved without a comparable young 1C going the other way.

Doubt Faulk gets moved this season, even if we get offered a solution to every need though; we need that leadership on the blueline.

Well Toronto can't help with the goalie situation. We have little depth in the minors, Enroth is no better than what you have with Ward/Lack, and Andersen isn't going anywhere yet. So that's out.

Nylander hasn't played C in the NHL yet, but some think he will/should. He has played the position at other levels.

Unfortunately, I don't think Toronto has anyone to offer that would help ease the loss of Faulk. Not his leadership or on-ice performance. That's probably where any trade would fall apart. Carolina has no reason to trade Faulk, and nothing to replace him with if they did.

 

[howkie]

A question to the op? Canes trade their number 1 d for a center that is not better then staal or rask, and tt is just as good playmaker or even better....

Reilly for matty p, dano and a second? Deal

 

[Omac13]

A trade to maybe help both sides in the long term.

Carolina

Justin Faulk - I know that he is a great player but he probably brings back the most value in trade and he opens a spot for Trevor Carrick who I think will adequately replace Faulf a PP quarterback.

Elias Lindholm - Talented player but starting to have a Yakupov vibe to him. He is young enough for the Leafs to take a shot and see if a change of scenery makes a difference

Bryan Bickell - Leafs flex their financial muscle and take the salary of Bickell for the final year.

Toronto

Nazem Kadri - A solid 2-3 centre who has offensive ability and has embraced a shut down role this year. Similar contract to Faulk but an extra year.

Kasperi Kapanen - I think he is going to be a really good player in the NHL but to get a great player like Faulk you have to give up quality.

Jeremy Bracco - A high skilled player who is having a good year in the OHL. Leafs have a lot of these so giving up Bracco is a little easier to swallow.

Conditional 2018 2nd Round Pick - A second round pick if Lindholm scores 45+ points in the 2017-18 season or a third if he does not.

We need to stop with the Defence stuff. Everyone who has a good young defender now in the NHL thinks their Defender is the best young player in the league and want a kings ransom for him. Especially if he shoots right. god for bid he shoots right. That Hall deal has everyone thinking they can get a player like Hall for their defender.

With that said I like Faulk, he would be deadly on our PP but I would much rather draft and develop our own guy(Neilson, Dermott could end up being as good as Faulk) or sign a guy in the offseason like Shattinkirk before I would give into a price of Marner or Nylander(FYI neither of these kids are being traded) stick to our plan and lets stop considering these ridiculous trades

 

[WTFMAN99]

Going out on a limb here, but I'm guessing you are a Leafs fan. This will get locked quickly. That offer gets ridiculed for Faulk alone

Agreed, and I'm a Leaf fan.

 

[howkie]

We need to stop with the Defence stuff. Everyone who has a good young defender now in the NHL thinks their Defender is the best young player in the league and want a kings ransom for him. Especially if he shoots right. god for bid he shoots right. That Hall deal has everyone thinking they can get a player like Hall for their defender.

With that said I like Faulk, he would be deadly on our PP but I would much rather draft and develop our own guy(Neilson, Dermott could end up being as good as Faulk) or sign a guy in the offseason like Shattinkirk before I would give into a price of Marner or Nylander(FYI neither of these kids are being traded) stick to our plan and lets stop considering these ridiculous trades

No it has to do with supply and demand. Leafs defense is rubbish, they need a solid d-man just as bad as Oilers needed one. So the question, how much are the Leafs ready to pay? No team with a young d-man wants a collection, they want the shiny stuff or no deal.....

 

[DaveG]

A 1C, goal-scoring and a "now" goalie. We have a future goalie. Pretty sure Faulk doesn't get moved without a comparable young 1C going the other way.

Doubt Faulk gets moved this season, even if we get offered a solution to every need though; we need that leadership on the blueline.

#1C and goal scoring are by FAR the biggest needs.

If we can't get a legit #1C (think RyJo for Jones then add a bit due to Faulk's higher value) then a borderline elite winger (think Hall for Larsson then add a bit due to Faulk's higher value) would be the trade.

Marner and Nylander are the only two pieces the Leafs have that make even one tiny bit of sense for Carolina in a potential Faulk trade.

 

[pheasant]

#1C and goal scoring are by FAR the biggest needs.

If we can't get a legit #1C (think RyJo for Jones then add a bit due to Faulk's higher value) then a borderline elite winger (think Hall for Larsson then add a bit due to Faulk's higher value) would be the trade.

Marner and Nylander are the only two pieces the Leafs have that make even one tiny bit of sense for Carolina in a potential Faulk trade.

Is Carolina so starved for goals that a Faulk trade would be considered, with no D coming back? I imagine it would make a pretty big hole on the blueline, creating a new problem. Or is their defence better than I am picturing?

 

[AINEC*]

Absolute trash proposal for Carolina.

 

[LeafsNation149]

I'd do that for Faulk alone. No way Carolina adds Lindholm... lock er up

 

[Chan790]

Is Carolina so starved for goals that a Faulk trade would be considered, with no D coming back? I imagine it would make a pretty big hole on the blueline, creating a new problem. Or is their defence better than I am picturing?

We're deep long-term on D, though more LHD than RHD like Faulk. The Canes D is good; it's also young...which is why moving Faulk, really our only veteran Dman other than Hainsey who seems done, is perilous.

Slavin's ambidextrous, which helps...moving Faulk for a 1C, we probably move Slavin to the right side and rely on our LHD depth...probably also add a vet in FA to be the "leader" on the blueline.

It's a small setback of the rebuild to move a position of strength for a need at 1C we have few options to fill.

 

[pheasant]

We're deep long-term on D, though more LHD than RHD like Faulk. The Canes D is good; it's also young...which is why moving Faulk, really our only veteran Dman other than Hainsey who seems done, is perilous.

Slavin's ambidextrous, which helps...moving Faulk for a 1C, we probably move Slavin to the right side and rely on our LHD depth...probably also add a vet in FA to be the "leader" on the blueline.

It's a small setback of the rebuild to move a position of strength for a need at 1C we have few options to fill.

Well in that case, how appealing is William Nylander to the Canes? I've mentioned earlier that he has played C at other levels, and there is no questioning his offensive talent.

It's a trade I think Toronto would consider, especially if other D options start to dissappear. Like if Trouba really is happy to stay in Winnipeg, or if Shattenkirk doesn't hit UFA. I like Faulk a lot.