DougieSmash
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Pretty much. I don't think Reim is worse goalie than McBackup. He's capable of playing 35-40 games. Good insurance if Mrazek sucks.
Confirmed with Link: Carolina sign Ryan Dzingel - 3.375 x 2
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Some posters who watched Dzingel in Ottawa (and maybe Columbus) have stated on the main board that Dzingel is below average defensively. If that is the case, I would be hesitant to put him on the wing opposite Svechnikov. Svech got better as the year progressed, but he still is growing in the defensive end.
NN/Aho/Svech
Dzingel/Staal/Teravainen
I think this has four advantages:
- Less defensive responsibility for Svech;
- Dzingel is with two excellent defenders;
- TT passing to Dzingel—as Vorbis mentions above RDZ is strong at finishing off passes. Passing is TT's biggest strength;
- NN was at his most productive with a healthy Aho.
Lempo
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Boom Boom Apathy
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I get that Dzingel would be with two excellent defenders, but not sure it makes sense to put a defensive liability (as has been stated) with a shutdown center.
Of course lines won’t ever stay the same in a season and a lot depends on Williams as well.
I always hear that in "Arnold's" voice:
spockBokk
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Dzingel with Staal seems pointless.
Dzingel with Aho or Haula makes perfect sense as part of scoring line 1a or 1b.
Dzingel with Aho or Haula makes perfect sense as part of scoring line 1a or 1b.
Lempo
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Assuming Williams is back:
NN - Aho - Williams
Svech - Staal - TT
Dzingle - Haula - Necas
Foegele - Walmark - Marty
Assuming Williams is NOT back:
NN - Aho - Svech
Foegele - Staal - TT
Dzingle - Haula - Necas
McGinn - Walmark - Marty
NN - Aho - Williams
Svech - Staal - TT
Dzingle - Haula - Necas
Foegele - Walmark - Marty
Assuming Williams is NOT back:
NN - Aho - Svech
Foegele - Staal - TT
Dzingle - Haula - Necas
McGinn - Walmark - Marty
WreckingCrew
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Do you want to fail to score on every TT pass...because that's how you fail to score on every TT pass...
VAcaniac
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These lineup combos are making me excited. It’s been a long fricking time since weve have 4 really solid lines.
So true.
So true.
Drivebytrucker
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I have zero confidence watching Necas in the AHL this year that he's going to bring the effort required to earn a spot on this team over guys like Saku or McGinn.
I know they're gonna bring it.
I like the fact though that guys like Bean, Fleury and Necas are being required to work hard for roster spots.
I know they're gonna bring it.
I like the fact though that guys like Bean, Fleury and Necas are being required to work hard for roster spots.
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Agreed. Can we please start slotting Staal where he belongs? As in the 3C along side some havoc types like McGinn and Foegele or slot a rookie that needs some defensive support like Necas on his wing.
These lineups with 'ol stone hands centering ANYONE with proven offensive talent make me cringe.
AD Skinner
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I hope he is able to come in and play a similar role. I've been going back and watching condensed games from the season and I dont feel like it can be overstated what a huge factor mcelhinney was
Unsustainable
Seth Jarvis has Big Kahunas
FreshSeabass
Aho!
I like this better
Svech - Aho - TT
NN - Haula - Dzingel
Foegele - Staal - Necas
McGinn - Wallmark - Martinook
this way top 2 lines have shooters on the wings with guys who can effectively distribute the puck playing center.
You could swap TT and Dzingel if you want. Also if williams comes back and they move on from McGinn push foegele down to fourth line. Add williams to the third line. Done
Svech - Aho - TT
NN - Haula - Dzingel
Foegele - Staal - Necas
McGinn - Wallmark - Martinook
this way top 2 lines have shooters on the wings with guys who can effectively distribute the puck playing center.
You could swap TT and Dzingel if you want. Also if williams comes back and they move on from McGinn push foegele down to fourth line. Add williams to the third line. Done
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Staal is a legit 2C. Except for the lockout shortened season or in seasons that were shortened by significant injury, 'ol stone hands' has scored > 15 goals every year except for 07/08. He averages 20G - 47P / 82 games through his NHL career. And this is while ALWAYS facing the toughest competition, getting less ozone starts, and going up against the other team's toughest lines in a shutdown role.
I don't get why people want Haula ( who is only 2 years younger than Staal and has hit > 15 goals once in his entire career - and that was a fluke year1 in Vegas) or Wallmark ahead of him?
I don't get why people want Haula ( who is only 2 years younger than Staal and has hit > 15 goals once in his entire career - and that was a fluke year1 in Vegas) or Wallmark ahead of him?
I will bet my house on the fact that Rod is not going to take his best shut down center and put an untested rookie on his wing.
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Interesting that most of the fans don't want to see again NN/Staal/TT. They were so good in the playoffs. Though it's not good in two-way departament, i'd love to see Dzingel with Haula and Svech.
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After this signing and reading these potential lineups this is the earliest in the summer I’ve been excited about and ready for Canes hockey in a while.
I would probably switch Nino and Svech here, but otherwise this is exactly what I was thinking. I really like TT with Staal, moreso than with Aho. Seems like the big man clears space for TT and lets him take charge of playmaking instead of deferring to Aho commonly.
I don't know if Rod would like that 3rd line defensively, but that's a ton of speed to match up against 3rd pairings and could wreak havoc. Watching Dzingle highlights, I love how he always seems ready for the puck in the offensive zone. So many nice passes by TT, Svech, Hamilton etc last season seemed to almost surprise the recipient and ended up as a whiff/miss/second delay before chest protector. Having someone who's always looking to receive that pass and make a quick move before roofing it makes the offense much more potent.
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Is there any chance at all Luostarinen/Geekie/Gauthier/Mattheos win the roster spot over Necas>
Primetime8
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You know you're a Canes fan when a save percentage over over .900 is used to justify that a goalie doesn't suck.
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Haula is definitely benefitting from acquisition bias. I will mention again that he has averaged 18 assists per season—which is what Wallmark had as a rookie.
Agree that TT needs to be the playmaker on a second line. As much as Svech/Aho/TT is a terrific scoring line, TT's passing/playmaking ability is needed to get goals out of whomever the other winger is going to be.
Always a chance, though likely one will be an injury call-up. Hopefully that one makes it difficult to send them back down.
My guess is the preseason is used to solidify the line combinations and get Haula and Dzingel acclimated to their roles and the team's playing style. I think Necas is the default option for the third RW—especially if Williams is elsewhere and there is no right-shot in the forward group.
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