Friedman: Carolina likely to offer an 8 year, $100+ M contract to Rantanen before the deadline
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Linds
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I mean, isn't this expected? Did anyone think the Canes picked him up expecting him to sign for less than 12.5 per?
gritdash60
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If he signs, which i don't think he will it's going to be 13.5-14 x 7
If i was him i would say "wow f*** this man on man defense and this dude playing me 19minutes, good bye"
If i was him i would say "wow f*** this man on man defense and this dude playing me 19minutes, good bye"
spockBokk
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But what do you have to offer? Your trade assets consist of "things you're not giving up for a rental" and "things that don't really seem appealing for Carolina."
I assume you're not moving NHL assets and weakening your chances this year if you're shopping for a rental top-6 F.
I thought it was clear, but i meant the Canucks would be after Rantanenn if he made it to July 1st as a UFA.
I missed that. There's been a lot of silly talk we'd flip him if he won't extend by the TDL.
Unless someone is prepared to go $15M AAV, I think we've backed ourselves into beating any offer. If Rantanen won't sign in Carolina, it won't be because of money.
15x 8 is 120 million . Thats obviously a lot of money.
Every other team would have to offer around 17 mil for 7 years to compete with that.
It would definitely seem like a non money decision if he was to not re-sign in Carolina.
Is Carolina willing to trade him by the trade deadline if Rantanen's agent confirms that Rantannen is going to free agency?
bleedgreen
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Where do you guys get this stuff? Strong arming???
Because they’re offering him a contract….at some point?!? That’s strong arming?
Jake left because the Canes took too long to offer him what he wanted…not because he found something wrong underneath the hood. He crushed it with Aho, he was a great fit. The Canes let him get too close to free agency. Everyone clowned them for it. Now we’re apparently going to respect the player and give him a good offer much earlier in process and we’re strong arming him?
So tell me how they’re supposed to play it where you think it’s right, because I get the feeling you don’t think any way they do it is right.
JoeSakic13
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It’s possible that Rantanen is worth it, but so far it’s hard to argue he’s worth that with Carolina. You gotta feel that he needs to show he has chemistry with the team before locking that in.
He has undeniable talent, but that talent is just as important as being a good fit for the team.
He has undeniable talent, but that talent is just as important as being a good fit for the team.
I dont know what you mean by unstable mess? are players not getting their paycheques?
Are you talking about Canucks willing to trade disgruntled players?
What difference is that with Colorado being cheap and willing to trade franchise players?
which one is more unstable?
For High End free agents it always comes down to the following
1. Family Happiness in the city they will live in
2. Quality of life
3. Money
4. Cup Chances
3 and 4 can interchange at times.
bleedgreen
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As a Canes fan I think he can be a great fit with Aho but I think the team needed a 2C more than a great goal scorer. Everyone makes a big deal about the Canes needing that 50ft player but even if we have that guy with KK at 2C I don’t see us as a threat. Paying that 50ft guy the money we’re talking about when they still have other holes in the lineup isn’t my first choice.
But when you get a chance at an all star level guy and you’ve been beaten to punch before I don’t blame them for making the move when it presented itself. Im just not convinced this is the player that changes our fortunes.
No. I meant if someone else was willing to go 15x7. I don't think we'd go that high on AAV...but we have the 8th year to bring down AAV.
That's the speculation. I don't see it...but who knows?
I don't think money is the reason if he goes to UFA and leaves Carolina.
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Linds
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They should move him if he won't resign. It would be terrible asset management in back to back years. Canes front office are notorious for being cheap and or taking too long to make long term offers. Not sure why Rantanen would want to sign for 8 years anyways. He wanted to stay in Colorado but got greedy. It would be kind of stupid at this point to not test free agency and see what's out there. Maybe he does circle back to the Canes in the end. But he should at least check.
Man, you really truly dont have any idea what you are talking about when you post, do you?
Carolina showed restraint with rentals to the point of criticism at prior deadlines. In 2019, they did zero. Skjei and Trocheck had term in 2020. 2021 saw Hakanpaa for Fleury. 2022 was Domi for a mid prospect. 2023, Gostisbehere for a 3rd and Puljujarvi for a mid prospect.
And they’re constantly trading back, accumulating more prospects. The Guentzel trade didn’t hurt whatsoever. In the context of the limited control the Canes had over Necas, Rantanen doesn’t hurt much either.
And they’re constantly trading back, accumulating more prospects. The Guentzel trade didn’t hurt whatsoever. In the context of the limited control the Canes had over Necas, Rantanen doesn’t hurt much either.
torniojaws
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He doesn't fit the playstyle of Carolina. I have no idea why Carolina traded for him. Maybe Necas really really wanted out and Carolina decided to gamble a bit as Rantanen will be an UFA anyway, so they don't lose much. And with the cap increasing, they can just hire someone else.
