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Value of: Capspace: who has got it?

LEAFANFORLIFE23 said:
That's not a question I feel like I can answer because in the case of Tavares and Knies I have no idea.

I know Tavares will get less because there is no shot he gets 11 million again but how much less?

Will there be deferred money like there is in a few contracts around the league including McCabe's deal?

Knies I'll guess he gets a bridge at around 6X4

Marner? Who knows?
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6 years x 4m or 6m x 4 years?
 
LA has about 25M in cap space with a 19 man roster.

Free Agents:
Gavrikov UFA
Kuzmenko UFA
Jeannot UFA
Laferriere RFA
 
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Signed:
  • Forwards (8) - Huberdeau, Kadri, Farabee, Sharangovich, Coleman, Backlund, Lomberg, Pospisil - 40,650,000
    • Non-Roster Forwards (8) - Gridin (ELC SLide), Battaglia (ELC Slide), Suniev, Honzek, Stromgren, Basha (ELC Slide), Bell, Ciona
  • Defensemen (6) - Weegar, Andersson, Bean, Miromanov, Pachal, Solovyov - 15,762,500
    • Non-Roster Defensemen (5) - Parekh (ELC Slide), Brzustewicz, Morin, Jurmo, Grushnikov
  • Goalies (1) - Wolf - 850,000
    • Non-Roster Goalies (2) - Cooley, Say
  • Retained Salary (1) - Markstrom - 1,875,000
TOTAL (15) - 59,137,500

Restricted Free Agents:
  • Forwards (4) - Coronato (10.2.c), Zary, Frost, Klapka
    • Non-Roster Forwards (2) - Kerins, Morton
  • Defensemen (1) - Bahl
    • Non-Roster Defensemen (2) - Kuznetsov, Poirier
  • Goaltenders (0) - None
    • Non-Roster Goaltenders (2) - Ignatjew, Murphy
Unrestricted Free Agents:
  • Forwards (4) - Mantha, Rooney, Kirkland, Hunt
    • Non-Roster Forwards (2) - Frk, Bishop
  • Defensemen (1) - Hanley
    • Non-Roster Defensemen (3) - Barrie, Tinordi, Aspirot (Group VI)
  • Goaltenders (1) - Vladar
    • Non-Roster Goaltenders (0) - None
Possible Extensions:
  • Forwards (0) - None
  • Defensemen (1) - Andersson
  • Goaltenders (1) - Wolf

I suspect the 5 RFAs on the roster sign for less than 20m combined, which will give Calgary 15m+ in space to work with. They also had a ton of space last summer and our only notable UFA signing (and I'm being generous) was Anthony Mantha to a 1-year deal.
 
HockeyVirus said:
The point is we don't need to bring either back. But we can bring both back or some combination of one of them and new players. Lots of flexibility.

Knies is not getting more than 4M on a bridge deal. I would expect he gets a 7AAV deal with term right now. 4M x 2 years most likely.

Tavares is not getting an albatross Stamkos deal from us
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Knies is a 22 year old power forward pacing for 60pts.. you really think 4M is enough? Maybe if he's not eligible for offer sheets or arbitration?
 
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LA seems the most dangerous for big game hunting. It is different the amount of players that don’t want to sign there though

High taxes are clearly a factor. But rantanen would have signed in Toronto but not LA. Odd to me.

I think they are the front runner for Marner. Unless top wingers don’t think they will have a C to play with when kopitar leaves
 
As a Blackhawks fan I will tell you about the dangers of spending cap space before it’s official. I remember thinking Kane and Toews extensions would be no big deal due to the strong Canadian dollar and tar sands blah blah blah. Ended up being the death knell of our dynasty.

So with a stormy economy on the horizon, nothing is guaranteed
 
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viceroy said:
But what are you guys doing though? Are you still rebuilding? Re-tooling? Going for the playoffs? I can never understand Flames' ownership.
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We're re-building/tooling. We've really done nothing to venture from that path, except have a rookie goalie stand on his head and put us in the playoff race.

Starting with trading Toffoli around the '23 draft, we have only made 2 trades that added someone older than 25 (Miromanov who was 26 and Kuzmenko who was a cap dump) and our UFA additions have been minimal.

These are the trades and FA signings since Conroy took over as GM:
  • Traded Toffoli for Sharangovich and a 3rd
  • Signed Oesterle to a 1-year deal (he played more for the Wranglers than the Flames)
  • Claimed AJ Greer off waivers
  • Traded Zadorov for a 3rd and 5th
  • Traded Lindholm for a 1st, 4th, Kuzmenko, Brzustewicz and Jurmo
  • Claimed Brayden Pachal off waivers
  • Traded Tanev for a 2nd and Grushnikov
  • Claimed Joel Hanley off waivers
  • Traded Hanifn for a 1st, 3rd and Miromanov
  • Traded a 5th for Nikita Okhotyuk (he's still 24 and we hold his rights indefinitely)
  • Traded Markstrom for a 1st and Bahl
  • Signed Mantha to a 1-year deal (it's believed the plan was to feed him minutes and then trade him at the deadline, but he blew out his knee)
  • Signed Jake Bean to a 2-year deal
  • Signed Ryan Lomberg to a 2-year deal
  • Signed Tyson Barrie to a 1-year deal
  • Traded Pelletier, Kuzmenko, 2nd and 7th for Frost and Farabee (Farabee and Frost are only 1 and 2 years older than Pelletier)
 
byrath said:
Knies is a 22 year old power forward pacing for 60pts.. you really think 4M is enough? Maybe if he's not eligible for offer sheets or arbitration?
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Good thing is we have more than enough cap space to make anything work with matching. I think probably the only way we don't match is if a team offers enough for 4 firsts, especially if they are a bubble team.

I think the Leafs bridge him for 2 years and I think that cost 4M
 
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