Weekes: Caps, Pens, CBJ have inquired into Hoglander

[Rowlet]

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[Nucker42]

Makes sense. Think he needs a change of scenery. Doesn’t fit with this coach, much like Kuzmenko.

Think with more ice time and some PP time he will do well. He was fantastic last year.

 

[Peter Griffin]

Give us your D for our Hog.

 

[Sideline]

Batshit crazy proposal:

EK65 retained to 5MM
For
Hoglander
Desharnais

 

[SEALBound]

Something around Pettersson @ 50% for Hoglander+2nd seems like it would be good for both sides.

 

[Ryder71]

Something around Pettersson @ 50% for Hoglander+2nd seems like it would be good for both sides.

Yeah, something like that looks good. I thought the same thing. Maybe slightly less retention but...

 

[Rowlet]

Yeah, something like that looks good. I thought the same thing. Maybe slightly less retention but...

If the Penguins take Desharnais they don't have to retain at all, it's functionally identical.

 

[wej20]

If the Penguins take Desharnais they don't have to retain at all, it's functionally identical.

Desharnais has another year on his deal.

 

[Three On Zero]

Young, cost controlled middle 6 player? Of course teams are going to look into him

 

[Bjornar Moxnes]

Desharnais has another year on his deal.

Well other than the fact he's a good tank commander, Desharnais at 1 mill actually has positive value being a RHD big guy at the deadline as a rental.

 

[Rowlet]

Desharnais has another year on his deal.

I know that, and the Penguins get an NHL player back who they can move for another asset next deadline while being able to plug him into Pettersson's spot in the lineup for the forseeable future.

He's a 6'7, 225lb RHD who you can retain on next season.

 

[Breakers]

he works hard, is elite on the cycle beneath the goal line, and has a crazy high motor

Was the best player through 5 games but been in a line blender since

 

[sensfan4lifee]

Bernard Docker from the Sens straight up for Hoglander

Nucks get a young rh D and the Sens get a potential 2nd line winger makes sense to me

 

[wej20]

I know that, and the Penguins get an NHL player back who they can move for another asset next deadline while being able to plug him into Pettersson's spot in the lineup for the forseeable future.

He's a 6'7, 225lb RHD who you can retain on next season.

6'7 225lb RHD who has been scratched multiple times this season. We've already got our own big defenseman we're scratching on the regular.

 

[Ryder71]

Giving up our last retention spot though is concerning. Gotta make it count.

 

[Rowlet]

6'7 225lb RHD who has been scratched multiple times this season. We've already got our own big defenseman we're scratching on the regular.

I don't really care, I offered an alternative to retaining money on Pettersson. The Penguins only have one slot left for retaining, taking on Desharnais lets them retain on a player who actually needs retaining to be moved, like Karlsson.

 

[Malkinstheman]

Feels like Hoglander is definitely going to end up a Penguin

 

[Empoleon8771]

If it's the Penguins, it would almost assuredly be Pettersson for Hoglander and futures. I'm just curious what "futures" would mean in that deal, it's tough to pin down Hoglander's value.

I figure it would either be Hoglander and a 1st or Hoglander, a prospect like Mynio and a 2nd for Pettersson. I think it would probably have to include double retention.

 

[wej20]

I don't really care, I offered an alternative to retaining money on Pettersson. The Penguins only have one slot left for retaining, taking on Desharnais lets them retain on a player who actually needs retaining to be moved, like Karlsson.

Pens don't need to retian on Pettersson and if they decided to then he's an UFA so it isn't a big deal.

 

[Rowlet]

Pens don't need to retian on Pettersson and if they decided to then he's an UFA so it isn't a big deal.

If the Penguins retain on Pettersson they can't retain on anyone else this deadline, which is a big deal.

 

[wej20]

If the Penguins retain on Pettersson they can't retain on anyone else this deadline, which is a big deal.

Realistically who are they going to retain on at the deadline? Everyone is available sans Sid, Geno and Letang but I'd be stunned to see someone make a play for Karlsson at the deadline and guys like O'Connor, Grzelcyk, Beauvillier and Acciari aren't going to require retention if there is interest in them.

 

[3074326]

Nvm

 

[Empoleon8771]

If the Penguins retain on Pettersson they can't retain on anyone else this deadline, which is a big deal.

They don't really need to retain on anyone else at the deadline, though. The guys who will likely be traded at the deadline are Beauvillier ($1.25 million AAV), O'Connor ($925k AAV), Grzelcyk ($2.75 million AAV) and possibly Nedjelkovic (2 years at $2.5 million AAV). Using that last retention spot on Pettersson is exactly what they should be doing.

I think Vancouver getting double retention on Pettersson (Penguins retain 50% and the Canucks pay someone a 5th to retain an additional 50%) is the most likely way Vancouver gets the money to add Pettersson. That would have him down at basically $1 million AAV.

 

[Rowlet]

Realistically who are they going to retain on at the deadline? Everyone is available sans Sid, Geno and Letang but I'd be stunned to see someone make a play for Karlsson at the deadline and guys like O'Connor, Grzelcyk, Beauvillier and Acciari aren't going to require retention if there is interest in them.

They don't really need to retain on anyone else at the deadline, though. The guys who will likely be traded at the deadline are Beauvillier ($1.25 million AAV), O'Connor ($925k AAV), Grzelcyk ($2.75 million AAV) and possibly Nedjelkovic (2 years at $2.5 million AAV). Using that last retention spot on Pettersson is exactly what they should be doing.

I think Vancouver getting double retention on Pettersson (Penguins retain 50% and the Canucks pay someone a 5th to retain an additional 50%) is the most likely way Vancouver gets the money to add Pettersson. That would have him down at basically $1 million AAV.

I have no idea who the Penguins would retain on, but not having the option to retain for a last minute trade at the deadline is an issue that's easily fixed by taking on additional salary for one year instead of retaining, on a player that can be moved for an asset. What do the Penguins do if someone desperate makes an offer for Malkin or Karlsson at the deadline or draft?

The Penguins gain two retention slots back on July 1st, so it makes more sense to hold a retention slot in case of a trade at a later date by taking on additional salary.

 

[Siludin]

Canucks need another RD - if it's WSH I wonder if they are floating Trevor Van Riemsdyck.

edit: At RD, he's buried under Carlson and Roy. Washington has McIlrath on the roster at RD, and they have a few guys in the minors with NHL experience (Bear, Iorio) who they could bring up to fill those extra minutes. This move makes Washington younger and more dynamic up front, while trading from a position of depth on the back-endd. Vancouver gets their stopgap RD to eat minutes until Hronek is back, and potentially into next year when Willander is ready.