OT: Capitals Cinema Club: TV and Movies

[CapitalsCupReality]

Slow Horses - Apple TV, 4 seasons, 5th coming this summer. Gary Oldman, MI-5 stuff…..dug it.

 

[Neil Racki]

G20 - 6.5/10 .... pretty good, standard streaming action movie

Anora - 6/10 .. I got better as it went along. Read reviews were it was kinda a 3 part movie. The main character Anora was shallow, just yelled a lot in an annoying new jersey accent

Had people sunday tel me I didnt appreciate the undertones of the disproportionate way sex workers live ..

Im sorry .. this stripper has zero redeeming qualities, you never see her "struggle", you never see her wanting a different life, never see her being caught in the sex industry, you never see any of her background ..

She is a stripper who is trying to squeeze a drugged up immature kid

Florida Project/Red Rocket - loved those movies .... a lot more depth then this Anora

 

[AlexModvechkin8]

I’m not sure I can watch TLOU II. The story in the game was brutal and pissed me off to no end, especially the beginning.

 

[Calicaps]

Slow Horses - Apple TV, 4 seasons, 5th coming this summer. Gary Oldman, MI-5 stuff…..dug it.

So effing good.

 

[twabby]

The Last of Us, Season 2: The Last of Us Part 2, Part 1?

It's really good!

(major plot spoilers)

Spoiler

I'm digging the casting of Kaitlyn Dever as Abby. She is nailing the character so far. It's interesting that unlike the game they gave her motivation for killing Joel ahead of time. In the game we didn't really learn about her relation to the SLC Fireflies until well into the game.

Can't wait until the rest of the season!

 

[PlushMinus]

The Last of Us, Season 2: The Last of Us Part 2, Part 1?

It's really good!

I didn't see that coming, but I never played the game so for me it's just "a TV show".

I don't like the lead character Ellie - she is just really obnoxious and trying way too hard.

 

[CapitalsCupReality]

That was tough to watch. That woman deserves a slow death.

 

[HTFN]

The Last of Us, Season 2: The Last of Us Part 2, Part 1?

It's really good!

(major plot spoilers)

Spoiler

I'm digging the casting of Kaitlyn Dever as Abby. She is nailing the character so far. It's interesting that unlike the game they gave her motivation for killing Joel ahead of time. In the game we didn't really learn about her relation to the SLC Fireflies until well into the game.

Can't wait until the rest of the season!

a co-worker asked me the other day if I was as mad as her about what happened and my honest response was "no, I would much rather see this than a season's worth of trying to build a society"

I have no significant beef with the girl that plays Ellie and think the internet's response to her is kind of wild, I actually think this episode did a ton to soften that if you're looking for it which they didn't have to do an a lot of these dorks should be empathizing way more because even the things they hate are way more like them than they realize.

What works for a video game doesn't always work for a narrative. All that said, I did find myself thinking that the girl who plays Abby is arguably a better Ellie, because the look on her face when she gets truly nasty is so much more powerful and sympathetic and that's likely to be important.

for clarity: haven't played the games, don't really care about any of the internet mess, think it's interesting if not embarrassing how many people are coming after the girl who does play Ellie because they're doing just fine. I don't find them to be a powerhouse but they're not dragging things down either.

 

[usiel]

I didn't see that coming, but I never played the game so for me it's just "a TV show".

I don't like the lead character Ellie - she is just really obnoxious and trying way too hard.

Have not watched the current seasons but zooming back out these showrunners need to watch out for having the main cast person being generally unlikeable or have at least a better back story that bring some degree of humanity/likability. Full disclosure never played the game.

 

[HTFN]

Have not watched the current seasons but zooming back out these showrunners need to watch out for having the main cast person being generally unlikeable or have at least a better back story that bring some degree of humanity/likability.

This is arguably one of my edgier takes but it feels like so many productions are trying to strike so hard at the unique cultural touchstone that they're missing easy layups or casually breaking the subtext of the IP they're adapting. The Witcher feels like a great example of this because they even had a Geralt that everyone loved, and the guy loved doing it but they f***ed with the show so hard he quit and the whole project pretty much tanked.

I saw a thing the other day talking about how they're casting Paapa Essiedu as Severus Snape and while I'm 100% open to this being a good adaptation I have my concerns. By making Snape black you've made his entire backstory clouded by the undeniable undertones of racisim as it relates to bullying instead of him being described as a pallid misfit, which now shapes the entire narrative in a much different way. Hell, even if he's the "most hated professor" for being nasty the fact that he might be the one and only black one already changes the reasons why or otherwise shapes the messaging of the project in a way that is... not great at all.

 

[Hivemind]

RE: The Witcher - video gamers loved Cavill, book readers had mixed feelings at best. Geralt is much "grimier" and "sinewy" in the books, nobody is comfortable around him. CDPR glammed him up a bit for the video games, and Henry Cavill was a step even further in that direction for the TV show. Geralt in the books is very much the opposite of buff, charismatic and sexy - and it's pretty much impossible to describe Cavill without using those words.

(Not that the recasting did anything to address the book readers' complaints regarding Cavill)

A few different artist interpretations of Geralt based on books:

The Witcher would have worked best if they continued with it being a "monster of the week"-type show, but that's a different rant.