Sportsnet: Canucks will not ask any players to waiver NTCs

[caley]

This was mentioned the other day by Jason Botchford, but Jim Benning just confirmed in an interview on Sportsnet during the intermission of the TBL-VAN game that the Canucks will not ask ANY of their players to waiver No Trade Clauses in order to move them to other teams.

The reason he gave was that the players on NTCs are their leaders and they're happy with the way they've helped young players like Troy Stecher, Sven Baertschi and Bo Horvat develop.

When asked if he would be willing to move a player if a team asked about him or the player asked to be moved, he was skeptical but said he would work to accommodate if a player asked to be moved.

For the record, Cap Friendly lists Daniel Sedin, Henrik Sedin, and Loui Eriksson as having NMCs, while Alex Burrows, Brandon Sutter, Jannik Hansen, Alex Edler, and Ryan Miller are listed as having NTCs.

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[Tryamkin]

Quite common knowledge. It's Jimbo and staff we're talking about here..

 

[mouser]

Just want to point out: those players with NTC's can be traded without waiving as long as the trade fits their list.

 

[Richiebottles]

Why does he feel the need to say everything to the media?

No GM will want to deal with him soon.

 

[93LEAFS]

I highly doubt the Canucks (mainly ownership) wants to trade the Sedin's before marketable accomplishments such as 1000 NHL points. They are also there go to excuse on why they are re-tooling and not re-building when the real reason is Aquellini is afraid of a fickle fan base not buying tickets. Terrible situation for the die-hard fans to be in.

 

[DeltaSwede]

Canucks management have been adamant about surrounding their young players with veteran leaders throughout this transition process and they have stuck to their word. Whether you agree or disagree with that approach, that is what they have been saying since day 1 and this is consistent to that.

I can't see Burrows and Miller being held to the same standards as Hansen, Sedins, Eriksson, Sutter and Edler. Both Burr and Miller are UFAs at the end of the year and will both most likely be shopped come deadline day.

Sedins narrative is that they want to retire as Canucks.
Eriksson was just signed
Hansen is on a good contract, can be used up and down the lineup
Edler has been vocal about staying a Canuck
Sutter deemed a "foundational" player

Eriksson and Sutter will be important for transitioning away from the Sedins when they retire. The Canucks need something offensively when the Sedins leave. Putting all faith in a couple of rookies and other young players would go against the approach the Canucks have taken.

 

[D0ctorCool]

The thing about Benning that people fail to realize is that I hate him. I hate him so much.

 

[PG Canuck]

Benning is an idiot. He's becoming a bigger idiot by the day and every time he opens his mouth.

 

[Helistin]

But how many players have asked Benning if they can waive their NTCs?

 

[Spazkat]

Just want to point out: those players with NTC's can be traded without waiving as long as the trade fits their list.

Provided they have limited or partial NTC's that's true. Full NTC they aren't going anywhere unless they waive.

 

[caley]

I can't see Burrows and Miller being held to the same standards as Hansen, Sedins, Eriksson, Sutter and Edler. Both Burr and Miller are UFAs at the end of the year and will both most likely be shopped come deadline day.

Burrows is one of the two players Benning mentioned by name as helping out their younger players (Edler being the other), while there has been some talk recently by the Canucks that indicate they would like to re-sign Miller before next summer and bring him back for another season. So I'd say right now, unless things really change, Miller and Burrows might be among the least likely guys tobe dealt.

 

[Leafs87]

Trying to rebuild is pretty hard when you have that many NTCs anyways. The teams know you are at a disadvantage if the player has a limited amount of teams and his team is on it.

 

[JuniorNelson]

Benning doesn't have autonomy. How do I know? Linden's claims that they do.

Whatever. Benning says dumb stuff all the time. At least he doesn't freeze up and spout lies.

Canucks also avoid mentioning that nobody wants the players with NMCs. They even had a story planted that teams wanted the twins at full salary! LOL! As if!

Canucks are learning that players get old and salaries cannot offset that. They don't play better because they can't any more. This impacts their trade value but allows Benning to triumphantly announce he won't ask anybody to waive. Heroic!

 

[DeltaSwede]

Burrows is one of the two players Benning mentioned by name as helping out their younger players (Edler being the other), while there has been some talk recently by the Canucks that indicate they would like to re-sign Miller before next summer and bring him back for another season. So I'd say right now, unless things really change, Miller and Burrows might be among the least likely guys tobe dealt.

I'll name my first child after you if Burrows is re-signed. No doubt he has been positive for Baertschi and Horvat lately but it doesn't warrant him getting a new contract. He was nearly bought out this summer. A couple of weeks of good hockey doesn't equate to a new contract for a 35 year old that isn't getting better. What I can see however, is Burrows being traded to a contender that wants a playoff performer, an agitator who can score some goals, and someone that is highly versatile. Sounds like a pretty spot on type of player to get at the deadline as a contender.

What are the Canucks going to come out and say about Miller right now?

"No, we are not re-signing Ryan Miller in the summer"

what would that result in?
- Miller knows he doesn't have the support of management, could cause a distraction
- Teams low ball the Canucks in trade offers
- Miller doesn't re-sign with the Canucks, walks for free

The narrative doesn't fit with re-signing Miller unless he is willing to take a big pay cut and assume a back up role. I can't see that happening. Last season Markstrom kept getting more and more confidence from the team. This year they are pretty much splitting games. Seems to me Markstrom is being groomed to be the starter next season, with or without Miller. Miller has been fantastic lately, and all I see is the possibility of him being moved at the deadline become more realistic and the return better.

I'm puzzled how you could possibly put Miller and Burrows in the "least likely to be moved" pile with their UFA statuses... that's a mystery how you came to that conclusion. Bennings comments shouldn't lead you to that conclusion. He just used Burr as an example of what veteran players can do for the development of young players... like he did with Edler......



I really don't understand other posters calling Benning out on this. These players negotiated their ways to NMC's and NTC's and have the right to refuse to be moved. Ask all you want. Sedins and Edler don't want to leave Vancouver and that has been said multiple times over the years. They are pretty much out of the picture. Sutter and Eriksson will be needed after the Sedins retire. Eriksson was just signed this past summer and this season is pretty much Sutters first as a Canuck. He was injured pretty much the whole year last year.

Are you angry that he won't ask Hansen to waive his no trade?

I really don't get the reaction.

 

[Nick1219]

I'll name my first child after you if Burrows is re-signed.

Anybody want to sig this? Going once? Twice?

 

[DeltaSwede]

Anybody want to sig this? Going once? Twice?

Haha!

Well what do I get when I end up being right?

 

[EP to Kuzmenko]

Tanev doesn't have an NTC yet

 

[TT1]

Why does he feel the need to say everything to the media?

No GM will want to deal with him soon.

Benning has a big mouth. Hes a 2nd rate GM.

 

[A91]

The thing about Benning that people fail to realize is that I hate him. I hate him so much.

As much as I hate the Nucks, Tambo+Lowe really did a toll on our organization, sucks having trash management, Benning is the same. Hopefully the buffoon is fired soon, for the sake of hockey, not the Canucks haha!

 

[M.C.G. 31]

I honestly feel bad for Canuck fans due to their management and ownership. They should be on the path to rebuilding but they seem adamant about not committing to it.

 

[NotYou]

So someone is going to be asked to waive their ntc

 

[belair]

The thing about Benning that people fail to realize is that I hate him. I hate him so much.

Excellent post.

I laughed.

 

[wonton15]

So someone is going to be asked to waive their ntc

Ok I laughed

 

[Mal Reynolds]

Why does he feel the need to say everything to the media?

No GM will want to deal with him soon.

He means well... he'd be an ok guy to have a beer with (so long as you can put up with his punched out boxer/lifelong stoner level of conversation and/or intelligence and coherence)

But yeah, he's wayyyyyyyyyy too open with the media. Stark contrast to Gillis that way. And I suppose they love him for the fact he's such an open book.

IMO, he's in wayyyyyyyy over his head as a National Hockey League GM. He's not the first lifelong exec who couldn't handle the "big chair" and won't be the last. A bit like Rejean Houle maybe, in that he's a likeable enough guy in and of itself, just appallingly horrendous as a GM ergo many Canuck fans (myself included) cannot stand him and want him deposed from his lil house of cards pronto

 

[Mr Misty]

That core did such a great job developing Stetcher in the 15 minutes he's been in Vancouver, I can't wait to see what they can do with Virtanen, Shinkaruk, and McCann!