Ya it sounds like Oilers are pretty happy with him even though his offensive production isn't there. I wonder if he will eventually get some more PK time.
Confirmed with Link: Canucks Trade W Vasily Podkolzin to Oilers for 2025 4th (OTT)
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Ya it sounds like Oilers are pretty happy with him even though his offensive production isn't there. I wonder if he will eventually get some more PK time.
Still struggling to understand why Allvin gave up on Podkolzin.....I mean surely the guy brings as much or more to the table than the likes of Di Giuseppe, Heinen, Aman, Karlsson or anyone else they kept around.
And before they shipped him out, they'd just signed him to a two-year contract for basically $1m a season.....so he was cheap, this year and next.
Not unlike the team on the ice, Allvin isn't have a very good year either.
They did him a solid. I'm sure the development staff and coaching staff talked it over with management, and they felt he wasn't going to make the team with all the new acquisitions they got over the summer, i.e. Heinen, Sherwood, DeBrusk, etc. He'd now have to go through waivers to be sent to the AHL, so he’d be lost for nothing should he not make the team.
Could argue that they could have kept Podz over Sprong or something, but they were looking for something specific out of Sprong that Podz wasn't offering. Podz had plenty of opportunity to succeed here, and he didn't seize it.
Why they did him a solid, is that they could have run Podz through camp and then cut him and sent him through waivers, leaving him to be picked up by awful teams in god knows where. Instead, they trade him to a rival within Canada, a short flight away to Edmonton, causing minimal impact on his family. It also so happens Edmonton was absolutely starving for a young, cheap hardworking winger, and probably the best opportunity for Podz to get a footing in the NHL on a top team. And look what has happened, he's playing with Draisaitl and doing well, and will probably have an NHL career now. If they didn't like him as a person, there is no chance they trade him to a rival.
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I get your point.....at the start of the season, who knew that their bottom-six forward group would basically implode?
But with the benefit of hindsight, Podz would have been far better than the guys they've had shuttling back and forth down Highway One from Abbotsford to Vancouver. And he'd have certainly brought a lot more to the table than Heinen imo.
But it's a moot point--because they sold 'low' on him. And although he's not moving needle all that much in Edmonton, he's still a regular in a lineup that is far better than the sad-sack Canucks right now.
Mr. Canucklehead
Kitimat Canuck
I can see why we would still want Podkolzin around, but not getting the shade on Heinen. Basically the same offensive output while playing 3rd/4th line minutes vs. Podkolzin riding shotgun to one of the best players in the world. And Heinen does a lot of PK work.
I do think the Canucks worked with Podkolzin a lot, and tried to give him an opportunity somewhere new. I wish it was anywhere but Edmonton, but he’s a good, hard working kid and I’m glad he’s finding some success. I think finally getting a goal after whatever that stupid length of time was (a year and a half?) broke the dam and allowed his confidence to surge a bit.
Some people just need a change of scenery, when they thrive elsewhere isn't proof that they'd have thrived here if we kept them. Sucks but it happens, and sometimes we're on the recipients of those deals.
Thought Podkolzin had a decent game last night for Edmonton. Comes pretty much as advertised.....hard on the puck and an effective fore-checker. And his passing is actually quite good.
But absolutely zero finish. Glad he's found a home in Edmonton. Just wish the Canucks could have gotten more for him than a fourth round pick.
But absolutely zero finish. Glad he's found a home in Edmonton. Just wish the Canucks could have gotten more for him than a fourth round pick.
Cancuks
Former Exalted Ruler
Canucks always wait until the asset has diminished in value, before trading it. They'll do the same with Pettersson, Miller, Demko. Like stocks or crypto, buy low sell high. Not the opposite. Why they need to sell high on Sherwood, Lankinen. Maybe Hughes too if this shitshow continues.
Well management are paid to make the right decisions. We could have easily made room for Pods. Look at who was in the lineup tonight. Sasson (waiver exempt), Karlsson (waiver exempt) and PDG (history of clearing waivers). The idea that oh there's a good chance he would be lost to waivers is only if the team made it so. His contract at 2x$1M and his pedigree makes him the type of player you can extract value from. We shouldn't be like the Oilers and have replacement level vets block their young players and then think their young players might not be good enough.
Allvin talks about work ethic, tenancity, motor, physicality, speed, and Pods possesses that. Limited sample size but if you look at the combination of hitting, takeaways vs not giving away the puck, Pods is right up there as best on the team and you're telling me Pods doesn't have an NHL future? I'm not sure about how he did in Abbotsford, I'm only basing it on the games I watched him play in the NHL. When I watched him play last season I saw a player who can easily play a 4th line role in the NHL.
Change of scenery situations typically apply to players who have been given every opportunity but continues to underperform or players who feel entitled to a greater role than what has been given. That doesn't apply to a player like Pods who has only reached his first year of waiver eligibility and is willing to just work hard every day to earn a spot. There's zero entitlement from Pods and he isn't a top 6 or bust player or a poor fit for what the HC wants to do. If you listen to Tocchet's comments about Pods he seem to love him.
I like a poster alluded to above, if we drafted Podkolzin with a 4th round pick and he was being developed as a bottom 6 winger we would have been pretty happy with the results.
