Confirmed with Link: Canucks sign RD Vincent Desharnais 2-Year, $2M AAV Contract

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He's having a major struggle with adapting to our system and guys are getting in behind him too easily. He'll have some shifts that look promising ... and then just a major positional gaffe.

I liked the gamble/upside with this signing at the time but right now it's looking like a mistake.
This management group has shown they can quickly correct mistakes which is good. They even managed to get a pick for Lazar and there are desperate teams that would probably take on Desharnais right now.
 

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I don't think he's worse than Juulsen for almost all of last season. Similar issues really, putting himself out of position because of bad decisions and slow play reading.

I think we need to develop guys, not everyone is going to be at their ceiling. They would cost more to acquire otherwise.

Also are you guys describing Desharnais or just Myers at many points in his career here? Pretty hard to tell really.
 

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I don't think Desharnais will be moved. I think the Canucks knew he wasn't a finished product when they acquired him and he'll be a work in progress for some time
 

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I don't think Desharnais will be moved. I think the Canucks knew he wasn't a finished product when they acquired him and he'll be a work in progress for some time

I don't think Desharnais will be moved either but if a good opportunity to move him comes qw should consider it if management's evaluation of Desharnais has changed like we did with Lazar.

There's a difference between developing a guy who the team thought was a good 3rd pairing defenseman into someone better and a 7th Dman into someone better. The latter doesn't get 2x$2M unless we're talking a higher end prospect on a bridge contract.

Take Soucy for example. He was injured last year but he was a good #5 before we signed him and he came in and played like a good #5 and the team hoped to develop him into a #4.
 

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So far he's been a 'healthy scratch' in almost half the games the Canucks have played......not looking good so far......Allvin may be losing his touch.
 
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If he's not working out—they will trade him. Rutherford's team have always been quick to cut-bait on players that don't meet their expectations.

Big, tall, defensemen always have a market. It's how Erik Gudbranson has lasted so long. It's why Riley Stillman was in demand.

Given the market that seems to exist for defensemen—they might actually come out ahead in such a trade.
 

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So far he's been a 'healthy scratch' in almost half the games the Canucks have played......not looking good so far......Allvin may be losing his touch.
No gm Bats 100 percent. This deal was a head shaker at the time and has looked awful so far. Alvin is pretty good at correcting his mistakes, maybe hell be a part of a future trade
 

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No gm Bats 100 percent. This deal was a head shaker at the time and has looked awful so far. Alvin is pretty good at correcting his mistakes, maybe hell be a part of a future trade
Unfortunately signing guys like Desharnais and Forbort smacked of some desperation to me, after both Cole and Zadorov departed. And handing out a three year contract to a 34-year old d-man like Myers isn't going to age well either.

But that's price you pay, when for years you simply haven't drafted any d-men who can step up and challenge for even a depth spot. Signing two or three UFA d-men every summer isn't a sustainable plan.

I suppose there's some optimism that they finally have some kids in Abby who look like they can play. But until they arrive and actually do it, the Canucks will be scrambling on their back-end.
 
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How did this guy get 2x2 - he must have had one sexy demo video pack that his agent sent around LOL. The rolled the dice on the raw material I guess, and have failed by the looks of it.
 

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I'd love to know who pushed to sign this player. Was it pro scouting? Coaching? Management?
 

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It was my friend, Bob Sacamano.

I don't get the fuss over this ogre. He's been meh thus far, and the part of the season where he magically becomes valuable hasn't even begun. Panic, panic, panic. Tsk.
Do you remember when Karen Surman and Scott Rintoul had a Sportsnet show? I got Karen to straight faced read this on air, no idea it was Kramer. Scott neither. Some texter clued them in.




 
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Do you remember when Karen Surman and Scott Rintoul had a Sportsnet show? I got Karen to straight faced read this on air, no idea it was Kramer. Scott neither. Some texter clued them in.






There was two weeks during the pandemic where Dhaliwal got dunked on for reading joke names on the air, Moj in particular was getting too big for his britches. So, I used a name I thought Moj would fall for. Mike Hawk. There was a lineman for the team I liked with the last name, so I thought it was a slam dunk. And it was. He bought it, and began his backpedal but the reason it worked was exactly the reason I thought it would.

Love it when a plan comes together.
 

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I guess it makes sense that we contracted VD from Edmonton.

It's strange that Myers is only our physically biggest problem at this point, and that only by an inch and a few pounds.
 

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There was two weeks during the pandemic where Dhaliwal got dunked on for reading joke names on the air, Moj in particular was getting too big for his britches. So, I used a name I thought Moj would fall for. Mike Hawk. There was a lineman for the team I liked with the last name, so I thought it was a slam dunk. And it was. He bought it, and began his backpedal but the reason it worked was exactly the reason I thought it would.

Love it when a plan comes together.

Mike Hunt sounds a lot more like an actual name
 

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I'd love to know who pushed to sign this player. Was it pro scouting? Coaching? Management?

Sounds like the coaches - especially Foote - were impressed with him during the playoffs and felt like they could mold him into something greater in the Canucks system.

And there's stuff there to like. I really liked him in the AHL. He's very good on the PK. I think he's a pretty high IQ player for a player of his ilk, seems like a really good guy in the room. But his footspeed on retrievals is just very limiting. Plus he's on a team where there are all kinds of similar big glass-and-out big defenders and his skillset is more redundant than it might be elsewhere.

If we'd signed him at $800k to fill the Juulsen role it would be fine. We just overspent thinking there was more upside there and it doesn't seem like there was. Or certainly there isn't really the time for him to find that upside.
 
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