Prospect Info: Canucks select D Elias Pettersson , 3rd Round, 80th Overall, 2022

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D-lias Dettersson​

 

[bringbacktheskate604]

Why do people like you even follow sports if it makes you this miserable?

He's clearly not a nucks fan and I'm pretty sure he's an oilers fan.

 

[LordBacon]

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[bringbacktheskate604]

Unfortunately I have little trust in management to hang on to this guy. There’s been way too much noise for my liking in recent radio hits from Canucks insiders close to the front office, hinting that D-Petey could be the trade chip to bring in center depth. He’s arguably the top prospect in the organization - why even entertain that?

Management literally said he was the one prospect who is untouchable and holds more value internally than Willander.

There isn't any insiders close to management, they are made aware of things the same time as everyone else, it's been a point of contention since the Gillis era.

You never see trades or signings broken early here, it's why guys like Price make up bullshit rumours about Quinn without fearing they will lose access to inside info.

Aqua man made the rule of no tidbits because of their treatment of him.

Aside from the EP, JT drama which if anyone's to blame besides them it's the coach,
I think people are being far quick to blame management for this season.

Most of the drama around this team is bs and is what happens every time the nucks have a poor season.

 

[bringbacktheskate604]

If the Canucks trade D Petey I will lose all faith in this management, it's already hanging by a thread.

It's bizarre that the Canucks finally have cap space and it means absolutely nothing because this off-season a lot of teams have cap space.

Very lame that Willander hasn't signed yet. Just a cherry on top for a complete year of disappointment.

What exactly has management done to have you hanging buy a thread?

Did you feel that way in 23-24?
I mean I think the only thing they had any say in was the JT, EP thing and I think given the fact JT wanted out, they won the trade given we got Marcus on and O'Connor on top of Chytil and Mancini.

Just because other teams have cap space doesn't lessen the fact that we have 20 million with the ability to spend it all on two players given the roster as it stands.

Other teams with cap space have tons of players they need to sign, almost our entire roster is signed.

Also, Cam Robinson said hes heard things on the Willander front and said it wouldn't be a shock to see him signed next week

 

[JT Milker]

Management literally said he was the one prospect who is untouchable and holds more value internally than Willander.

There isn't any insiders close to management, they are made aware of things the same time as everyone else, it's been a point of contention since the Gillis era.

You never see trades or signings broken early here, it's why guys like Price make up bullshit rumours about Quinn without fearing they will lose access to inside info.

Aqua man made the rule of no tidbits because of their treatment of him.

Aside from the EP, JT drama which if anyone's to blame besides them it's the coach,
I think people are being far quick to blame management for this season.

Most of the drama around this team is bs and is what happens every time the nucks have a poor season.

I actually don’t blame them for the EP/JTM situation at all, shit happens.

They should catch blame for the defence to start the season. Although, there are posters that were explicitly ok with it and are now moaning about how awful of a job management did. Luckily this is just a message board so you can have your cake and eat it too.

 

[M2Beezy]

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[PavelBure10]

What exactly has management done to have you hanging buy a thread?

Did you feel that way in 23-24?
I mean I think the only thing they had any say in was the JT, EP thing and I think given the fact JT wanted out, they won the trade given we got Marcus on and O'Connor on top of Chytil and Mancini.

Just because other teams have cap space doesn't lessen the fact that we have 20 million with the ability to spend it all on two players given the roster as it stands.

Other teams with cap space have tons of players they need to sign, almost our entire roster is signed.

Also, Cam Robinson said hes heard things on the Willander front and said it wouldn't be a shock to see him signed next week

23-24 Allvin had done an amazing job bringing in Zadorov for dirt cheap and Lindholm later in the year to make a roster that would be competitive in the playoffs. The only disappointment I had was that Allvin stood still at the trade deadline to put the team over the top. I thought Allvin definitely should of won GM of the year that season.

24-25 was a complete disaster. Zadorov gets played around and got tired of waiting for a contract. Similar to Willander it came down to a few 100k in which Allvin later offered to Zads but that time it was too late. I don't care what other fans think, Zadorov fit the team like a glove and provided the intensity and toughness that this current roster doesn't have. None of this roughing up Hughes on the daily would be happening with the big Z on the roster.

Started the year off with Hughes, Hronek, Myers, Soucy, Forbort, Desharnais, Juulsen. Everyone knew on paper that this defensive core was shit, how on earth did management go into this season thinking "Wow this looks great". Losing Zadorov and Cole and their veteran leadership really hurt this mentally fragile team.

Allvin and Rutherford calling out or throwing their star players on the spot. Pettersson got called out for his shitty play. Which I believe should of happened behind closed doors, especially learning about how much of a introvert Petey is.
Allvin also going gun shy on the trade deadline and saying the offers for Boeser were laughable and shit. I'm sorry but if you are planning on letting Boeser walk anyways, any asset is better than losing Boes for Nothing. I would of gladly accepted a 2nd rounder for Boeser.
Rutherford recently throwing Hughes name out there saying he would like to play with his brothers. Adding in unnecessary pressure to the captain.
There were a lot of times this management should of kept their bloody mouths shut, instead of depreciating our assets and screwing up player relationships. No wonder why Boeser wants to leave town and others before.

The whole Miller/Pettersson debacle apparently went back as far as the Green years. How the hell did this management let this fued get so out of control? If this was known so long a go, why was both Pettersson and Miller resigned in the first place? One or the other should of been traded long before the ugly pimple came to a head. The trade package would of been greater than Chytil, Mancini and a 1st. Revealing to the hockey world about the feud in the first place was a stupid move because the Rangers knew the had Allvin bent over regardless if Miller "Kesler'd" us or not. Although I do agree we got somewhat lucky on what we received for Miller, I do not think it was a great package. Chytil was a red flag from the start and it didn't take long to see why.
I do like Marcus Pettersson and thought that was a good trade. The defense is great now, but the offense has gaping holes now.

Battling Willander over a couple of 100k is just baffling to me. After the season we just had, why mess with our top prospect over a couple of 100k. Is it really worth it? Take the gamble and pay the man.

Maybe I am so critical of management because of how 23/24 went. Everything went right on the ice and off. We all knew the Canucks couldn't match their PDO from the previous year and it would be a down year, but a lot of the misfortune from this season IMO came directly from management and their poor decisions.

We shall see how 25/26 season goes. I will give management the benefit of the doubt here. Now that the toxicity has left the dressing room. It will be a clean slate with a lot of cap space to play with. This season will be reliant of Pettersson becoming a point per game player again, but he needs help and that's up to Allvin to surround him and Hughes with better players. Hopefully Allvin goes back into 23/24 mode and finds some hidden gems in free agency and on the trade market. *fingers crossed*

 

[BOBBY9]

Deletersson

 

[VanJack]

Despite all the miss-steps of last season, the current Canucks front office gets a 'pass' from me, for one simple reason.

They successfully managed to totally revamp the blueline, basically on the fly and in mid-season. Of course having a young player like EP25 basically come in and knock it out of the park, helped a lot. And Mancini entered the fold as basically an unknown commodity in the Miller deal, and was more than serviceable.

But flipping the Rangers first round pick to the Pens for Marcus Pettersson solidified that pairing with Myers. Two big-bodied and mobile d-men who fit together like a glove. Now of course they have Wilander coming--further adding to the almost embarrassment of riches on the blueline.

In goal, they potentially have one of the best goaltending tandems in the league. Signing Lankinen and Sherwood for the kind of money they earned last season, was another home run.

So the big hole is up-front. But the Canucks have enough draft picks and young prospects to add some serious pop up front. This is now the 5th youngest lineup in the NHL. And if kids like Raty, Lekkerimaki and Wilander can come in and make the squad, they'll get even younger.

I still like the Canucks as a 'bounce-back' candidate in 2025-26. And I believe their future is brighter than it is in Vegas or L.A.

 

[Goatlender]

Despite all the miss-steps of last season, the current Canucks front office gets a 'pass' from me, for one simple reason.

They successfully managed to totally revamp the blueline, basically on the fly and in mid-season. Of course having a young player like EP25 basically come in and knock it out of the park, helped a lot. And Mancini entered the fold as basically an unknown commodity in the Miller deal, and was more than serviceable.

But flipping the Rangers first round pick to the Pens for Marcus Pettersson solidified that pairing with Myers. Two big-bodied and mobile d-men who fit together like a glove. Now of course they have Wilander coming--further adding to the almost embarrassment of riches on the blueline.

In goal, they potentially have one of the best goaltending tandems in the league. Signing Lankinen and Sherwood for the kind of money they earned last season, was another home run.

So the big hole is up-front. But the Canucks have enough draft picks and young prospects to add some serious pop up front. This is now the 5th youngest lineup in the NHL. And if kids like Raty, Lekkerimaki and Wilander can come in and make the squad, they'll get even younger.

I still like the Canucks as a 'bounce-back' candidate in 2025-26. And I believe their future is brighter than it is in Vegas or L.A.

Roster baiting about our defence and then going on about a big hole up-front. Sometimes I can’t handle this place

 

[Raistlin]

Roster baiting about our defence and then going on about a big hole up-front. Sometimes I can’t handle this place

they switched deck chairs around. they need to come out of UFA with a net gain in talent, whether its by signing or trading. Thats the only way the org move forward.

 

[Ninjadude]

This guy is going to be a stud. The other 2 Petterrsons should be traded before EP25.

 

[PuckMunchkin]

I actually don’t blame them for the EP/JTM situation at all, shit happens.

I mean... with JTs history it was kinda predictable.

They should catch blame for the defence to start the season. Although, there are posters that were explicitly ok with it and are now moaning about how awful of a job management did. Luckily this is just a message board so you can have your cake and eat it too.

 

[VanJack]

This guy is going to be a stud. The other 2 Petterrsons should be traded before EP25.

One of the most exciting young d-men to hit the Canuck market since Quinn Hughes was drafted.

In less than half-season in Vancouver there doesn't appear to be much he can't do. He's a mean piece of business at 6'4, 215 and skates like the wind. And he's only scratching the surface of his offensive potential. He's already a master at getting his shot through to the net for tips, deflections and rebounds.

He's a Vancouver d-man other teams will simply hate playing against. And that's an element this blueline sorely needs.

 

[VancouverJagger]

One of the most exciting young d-men to hit the Canuck market since Quinn Hughes was drafted.

In less than half-season in Vancouver there doesn't appear to be much he can't do. He's a mean piece of business at 6'4, 215 and skates like the wind. And he's only scratching the surface of his offensive potential. He's already a master at getting his shot through to the net for tips, deflections and rebounds.

He's a Vancouver d-man other teams will simply hate playing against. And that's an element this blueline sorely needs.

Yeah I was lying awake many nights thinking man we really need someone in the mold of Edler on our back end. That this kid came pretty much out of no where and is exactly what we needed - big, physical with solid iq and skating - is pretty amazing. He's gotta be the biggest feel good story for us.

With or without Hughes our top 4 is set for the next 5 years + and all at very affordable prices. The future isn't nearly as bleak as a lot of people say.........things can change in a hurry. Super excited to see what we have up our sleeve in the next few months.