Nope, he isn't going anywhere, neither is Willander.
Prospect Info: Canucks select D Elias Pettersson , 3rd Round, 80th Overall, 2022
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The best you're going to do trading prospects like EP25 or Wilander, is to get a 'prospect center' back, Nobody is trading a legitimate top-two center for guys that still need to prove themselves in the league.
Kickassguy
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I wonder if some kind of deal around Chytil and Norris could be worked out in the offseason with the Sabres.
Both carry injury risk, Norris with more upside but a longer commitment/bigger cap hit (and bonus: friend of Quinn's), Chytil with a heightened injury risk but less term and cap commitment. Satisfies Buffalo's need for a player now but with less commitment, satisfies Vancouver's need for a legit 2C (when healthy) and another piece of ammo to help with resigning Quinn.
I imagine Buffalo says no, but food for thought.
Both carry injury risk, Norris with more upside but a longer commitment/bigger cap hit (and bonus: friend of Quinn's), Chytil with a heightened injury risk but less term and cap commitment. Satisfies Buffalo's need for a player now but with less commitment, satisfies Vancouver's need for a legit 2C (when healthy) and another piece of ammo to help with resigning Quinn.
I imagine Buffalo says no, but food for thought.
sandwichbird2023
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Pass. If we are to have an injury-prone center that goes in and out of the lineup, I rather take the one with a much shorter term and about half the cap hit. Big no to Norris, even if we can remove Chytil's contract.
As we've seen with Chytil, acquiring injury-prone players come with a huge risk.
I guess that's why you have to give some props to Vegas. Acquiring Eichel was a huge risk at the time, coming off neck surgery and missing almost a full season. It could easily have gone the other way.
If it had been the Canucks, it probably would 'have gone the other way'. But Vegas either got lucky, or had a pretty good idea of Eichel's injury and believed he'd eventually be back to 100 percent.
But I don't what's worse--acquiring a guy who underperforms. Or a guy who can't play for you consistently because 's on chronically on LTIR.
Upon reflection, I think in lot of cases the latter is actually worse. You can't really trade a guy on LTIR, and the absence leaves a big hole in your lineup, night after night.
I guess that's why you have to give some props to Vegas. Acquiring Eichel was a huge risk at the time, coming off neck surgery and missing almost a full season. It could easily have gone the other way.
If it had been the Canucks, it probably would 'have gone the other way'. But Vegas either got lucky, or had a pretty good idea of Eichel's injury and believed he'd eventually be back to 100 percent.
But I don't what's worse--acquiring a guy who underperforms. Or a guy who can't play for you consistently because 's on chronically on LTIR.
Upon reflection, I think in lot of cases the latter is actually worse. You can't really trade a guy on LTIR, and the absence leaves a big hole in your lineup, night after night.
This. Exactly this. I'm skeptical, and pretty dismissive, of anyone that has strong about opinions about things that have to get done because I just have no clue how you go about the next steps of building out the roster.
Things need to happen but how, who, and in what order I have no idea.
Flik
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So in 2025-26 our d would be:
Hughes Hronek
MPettersson Myers
EPettersson Juulsen (Mancini, Willander)
Thats pretty good
If the kids continue their upwards trajectory, I'd dare say that's a potential cup contending D core right there for free. Juulsen puts us waaaaay over the top.
Hansen
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I think we're kinda f***ed. We aren't going to get a good C via trade or free agency. As shown with the Cozens/Norris swap, teams want one coming back if theyre giving one up.
I think we build around our D corp that is looking very very stacked for the next several years and hope that something shakes loose and Petey gets back to form. Either way JT Miller and EP have f***ed this window for contention
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This kid keeps getting better, congrats for showing well on his first fight.
His desire to play physical without fear or backing down is very promising. His reads will continue to get better and warrant him more minutes.
Legit top 4 upside.
His desire to play physical without fear or backing down is very promising. His reads will continue to get better and warrant him more minutes.
Legit top 4 upside.
sandwichbird2023
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A top 4 of Hughes-Hronek and DPetey-Willander has me drooling. This group has everything you can ask for, speed, skill, size, some physicality, defensive play, puck moving ability. There is a chance this can be the best set of top 4 in the league in a couple years!
Yes our F is weak, but with that D core and good goaltending, there is a chance we can still compete for the cup. Nashville went to the finals with a similar build, its not impossible. As long as EP40 bounce back to at least PPG, we have a decent core.
The Pacific Division might be up for the taking in a couple seasons as Vegas/LA and their older guys starts to decline, Sharks/Ducks not yet ready for prime time, and Flames stuck in the mushy middle, I can see us and the Oilers being the leaders in this division. I can even see the Oilers falling if they give Bouchard a $10m contract or if they lose McDavid to UFA.
Yes our F is weak, but with that D core and good goaltending, there is a chance we can still compete for the cup. Nashville went to the finals with a similar build, its not impossible. As long as EP40 bounce back to at least PPG, we have a decent core.
The Pacific Division might be up for the taking in a couple seasons as Vegas/LA and their older guys starts to decline, Sharks/Ducks not yet ready for prime time, and Flames stuck in the mushy middle, I can see us and the Oilers being the leaders in this division. I can even see the Oilers falling if they give Bouchard a $10m contract or if they lose McDavid to UFA.
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It really is a top 6. Add MPetey and Mancini to the group, with KK and Mynio in the wings. And next year we will have Forbert and Myers as well.
Scumbag Frank
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This guy was drafted using the pick we got from trading Hamonic to Ottawa (it was originally our own pick sent to Vegas to acquire Nate Schmidt)
Thank you Pierre Dorion and Pierre McGuire
Thank you Pierre Dorion and Pierre McGuire
M2Beezy
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Personally Id still rather have Gudbranson than McCann and Kyrou AINEC
The 2011 D-Corps was fantastic, but this one could shape up to be even better. At this point we are in the enviable position that no more players need to be brought in.
We also have good cap space to try to do something with the forward lines. The bottom 6 is pretty solid, though we could improve the 3C spot. Obviously we need a 2C, and some more talent on the wings (assuming Boeser and likely Suter are gone - though I’d try to re-sign Suter).
It’s insane they didn’t trade Boeser.
I know the Canucks are 'down and bit out' at the moment. But when you look around this Pacific Division, there are really no 'juggernauts' in the making.
In fact when you break down teams like Edmonton, L.A. and even Vegas, I think Vancouver has a lot better future than all of them. The Canucks enter this off-season as the 5th-6th youngest team in the league. And their blueline is absolutely stacked.
And their problems up front are fixable. Heck, guys like Lekkerimaki, Karlsson, Sasson and even Mueller and Klimovich might be a lot closer to the NHL than we think.
They do need more size and grit in their forward group. But it's hardly impossible to find those type of players. And they enter the off-season with ton of cap space for the first time in years.
In fact when you break down teams like Edmonton, L.A. and even Vegas, I think Vancouver has a lot better future than all of them. The Canucks enter this off-season as the 5th-6th youngest team in the league. And their blueline is absolutely stacked.
And their problems up front are fixable. Heck, guys like Lekkerimaki, Karlsson, Sasson and even Mueller and Klimovich might be a lot closer to the NHL than we think.
They do need more size and grit in their forward group. But it's hardly impossible to find those type of players. And they enter the off-season with ton of cap space for the first time in years.
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they need to trade for or sign a really good 2C, there is not enough offense. I dont know what they do with Chytil.
Anahiem is a juggernaut team in the making. There are 6 good teams in the central.
I generally agree, though it is worrying that we had four star-ish forwards, and we will now likely have .5. We desperately need some more high-end skill up front.
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Can someone help me understand why the Canucks didn't paper Jr EP down to the minors to be eligible for the AHL playoffs? Missed experience opportunity
Probably don’t think he needs it. The extra time beefing up had more value than AHL playoff experience.
He has the whole summer to do that....very odd and interesting decision.
He could also get hurt and delay it. If you know he’s good enough and don’t need that then what’s the point.
I guess they just don’t think AHL playoff experience matters for him anymore.
