Recalled/Assigned: Canucks recall F Vasily Podkolzin, D Matt Irwin from Abbotsford

[wetcoast]

I haven't yet watched your game vs Ducks,

No say it isn't so.

but he didn't record anything
- no points, no sog, no hits, no blocked shots, no take aways, no nothing,
not even a + marker

This is why people need to watch games instead of jsut stat watch.

12 minutes of ice time, or something to that nature

its just difficult to fathom reading stuff like this
what good does it do, to have a player with excellent performance,
if the player actually doesn't perform..

to perform : to accomplish
performance : execute, production


confused quest asking here
How do you define excellent performance?

His development has been weird and I doubt that he becomes a top 6 winger at this point but he has utility and he is a positive for this team right now.

 

[Rick Rocket]

He's looking fantastic

 

[Oliewud]

tremendous game. we got ourselves a player

 

[Brock Boeser Laser Show]

Does everything but score. Really like his non stop motor.

Would love to give him a similar deal as hog and see how he develops.

 

[Bougieman]

He looks like he's had time to marinate. Glad they didn't rush this guy, and gave him more time to get aclimated to the North American game. He looks far more comfortable now than in his first stint with the big club. He's doing everything he's supposed to be doing, and I think in the next few games we're going to see the goals start coming, too.

 

[RobertKron]

Sometimes a player just looks better in the NHL, than they did in the AHL. And Podkolzin may be one of those guys.

In the AHL I got the sense that sometimes he was trying to do to much--as if to compensate for the guys he was playing with. But in the NHL, in some respects the structure and skill makes it an easier game to play.

One thing Podkolzin has worked on though in his stint in Abbotsford, is his shot, particularly his one-timer. It's a rocket, and he gets it away quick. He's definitely found a home with Lindholm and Garland.

Unless he seriously regresses again, or the Canucks get eliminated early, I doubt he sees Abbotsford again this season.

This likely is a pretty safe bet, given there's no roster limit after the deadline.

 

[Artorius Horus T]

5 games, no points, +/- 0
8 sog, 16 hits, (5 hits in game 5)

How long he will stay up with great play? (assuming that's what the consensus is around here,
that he is playing great; the game that i saw, his first back, outside
few good plays, he was avg 3rd/4th line player, but that was my opinion/view)

Because, you have to start producing at some point

 

[Nucker101]

5 games, no points, +/- 0
8 sog, 16 hits, (5 hits in game 5)

How long he will stay up with great play? (assuming that's what the consensus is around here,
that he is playing great; the game that i saw, his first back, outside
few good plays, he was avg 3rd/4th line player, but that was my opinion/view)

Because, you have to start producing at some point

I don't think he's got the skill to be a legit top 6 forward in the NHL, I see more of an energy player who can hopefully drive play and if he's on a scoring line, he's the 3rd wheel who does the dirty work playing off of 2 skilled players.

 

[LordBacon]

Dude doesnt look lost in the nhl and has made some good plays but has yet to score a point
Thats so weird.

 

[lawrence]

5 games, no points, +/- 0
8 sog, 16 hits, (5 hits in game 5)

How long he will stay up with great play? (assuming that's what the consensus is around here,
that he is playing great; the game that i saw, his first back, outside
few good plays, he was avg 3rd/4th line player, but that was my opinion/view)

Because, you have to start producing at some point

Maybe he’s just 4th line player ? Who knows.

 

[kanucks25]

Feels like he's been doing the right things - skating well, forechecking, etc.

But may need to play with better players for the numbers to come. However, typically you don't get that promotion until you produce on your own.

Weird situation. At the very least, he looks to be a fine option for 4th line wing.

 

[VanJack]

I don't think Tocchet is just blowing smoke, when he says he loves this guy. Hard to say if Podz will ever be a big-time goal-scorer.

But even if all he becomes is a fierce forechecker who can contribute 14-20 goals like he did in his rookie season, he'll be a welcome addition. He's also a RFA this off-season, and I'm sure the Canucks retain him for not much more than $1m a season.

This is the kind of bargain contract they're going to need to be cap compliant.

 

[MS]

He’s playing totally differently from what he was doing in the AHL - in a good way - but the lack of production and results is persisting.

 

[alternate]

No disrespect to Irvin, but almost time to give Podz his own thread title.

 

[PavelBure10]

Been loving Pods game ever since he was recalled from Abbotsford. Love the way he uses his energy to make the big hit to force turnovers. He hasn't been putting up points but he's been playing a well positioned, well disciplined game. With his great work ethic and compete its only a matter of time before Pods starts to put up points. A really easy player to root for.

 

[MS]

Been loving Pods game ever since he was recalled from Abbotsford. Love the way he uses his energy to make the big hit to force turnovers. He hasn't been putting up points but he's been playing a well positioned, well disciplined game. With his great work ethic and compete its only a matter of time before Pods starts to put up points. A really easy player to root for.

It's very strange because I've watched almost every game Podkolzin played in Abbotsford this year and he was doing literally 180 degrees the exact opposite of this down there.

Overhandling the puck, skating circles on the perimeter, not playing physical or using his size, fairly frequent puck management errors and turnovers. Then he comes up here and he's doing all the right fundamentals, playing safe simple north-south hockey, getting the puck deep and playing physical meat-and-potatoes hockey.

Makes me question the coaching in Abbotsford a bit especially because we saw a very similar effect with Hoglander when he was down there.

 

[VanJack]

I've noticed the same thing with some players who move from the AHL to the NHL. For good hockey players, the NHL is actually easier in some respects to adjust to.

Sure the pace is faster and the skill level is light-years better--but every guy plays their position correctly and can make and receive just about every pass in the book.

In the AHL, my take was that at times both Hoglander and Podkolzin were trying to do too much--not only because they had the talent to try--but also to compensate at times for the lack of skill around them.

Yet that's the useful aspect of AHL games. Skill players will get a ton of ice-time and try all their moves whether they work out or not--but without the constant pressure-cooker of performing every night at the NHL-level.

 

[Yultron]

So happy Hoglander turned into a pot of gold !

I am started to get concerned about Podkolzin TBH and his future in this organization. He has to start getting points at some point , he should simply not be handed a roster spot next season .

I would be open to trading him at the draft for a 3rd round pick

 

[iceburg]

So happy Hoglander turned into a pot of gold !

I am started to get concerned about Podkolzin TBH and his future in this organization. He has to start getting points at some point , he should simply not be handed a roster spot next season .

I would be open to trading him at the draft for a 3rd round pick

Podkolzin will make this team as a high energy, physical, winger in the bottom 6. Since he was drafted at 10 OA everyone has been waiting for him to break out offensively. Nothing he has done so far gives confidence that will happen. Based on his performance in this latest call up, he will make the team next year. What he needs needs to do is consistently bring what he's been bringing. That said, he will need to compete with PDG, Aman, and Lafferty (if re-signed) for a roster spot. If he gets playoff games, that could dictate which way it goes.
He will require waivers next year and they won't lose him for free. I see this going one of two ways. He will either make the roster next year or be traded in the summer as part of a package that brings in a top 6 winger or a top 4 D man.
Longer term I can see him being a complementary, occasional top 6 winger, kinda like Lafferty or PDG but better. I don't see him being a staple in the top 6. I hope I'm wrong.

 

[tradervik]

The Canucks need Podkolzin to step up and take Joshua's roster spot when the latter departs in free agency.

 

[MS]

The Canucks need Podkolzin to step up and take Joshua's roster spot when the latter departs in free agency.

He's not really a similar player and he isn't that good.

Lafferty is the guy he probably replaces.

 

[Pastor Of Muppetz]

The Canucks need Podkolzin to step up and take Joshua's roster spot when the latter departs in free agency.

Not really comparable..Joshua is one of our best PK’ers..Hitters..Fighters ( if need be) and is trusted by the coach in key situations.

I want to see Podz succeed,but he’s no Joshua replacement.

 

[tradervik]

He's not really a similar player and he isn't that good.

Lafferty is the guy he probably replaces.

Not really comparable..Joshua is one of our best PK’ers..Hitters..Fighters ( if need be) and is trusted by the coach in key situations.

I want to see Podz succeed,but he’s no Joshua replacement.

Thank you both for crushing the dreams of a simple fan.


;-)

 

[MS]

Thank you both for crushing the dreams of a simple fan.


;-)

To be clear, if he can step in and replace Lafferty at $1 million for next year and play 12-13 minutes/game and put up 10-10-20 or something from the bottom-6, that's a pretty big win at this point.

Joshua had leveled up this year and was looking like a top-6 winger before his injury in addition to being much more physical than Podkolzin will ever be.

 

[LordBacon]

Wen score

Dude is actually playing good but the lack of production is kill me rn.