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Confirmed with Link: Canucks Re-Sign G Kevin Lankinen 5y/4.5AAV

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Not that sure of this move tbh as much as I've liked Lankinen's performance so far. The contract comes with an NMC for the first half of the contract, but this is the first time he's been playing as a starter. So big bet on him holding up.

And is this the team conceding that Demko is damaged goods? We should still be able to retain the FAs with the remaining cap space if Allvin so desired and run both goalies next season, but I have a feeling he's going to be trade bait in the off-season.
 
This was a no-brainer, given the Demko situation. The players like him, but most important, trust him. This, plus the fact that we've improved so much on defense, makes me more optimistic going forward than I've felt in awhile.

On the down side, without Demko we now have a ???????? in the back-up role. Hope Silovs has the ability to improve.
 
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Slapshot_11 said:
Terrible signing that reeks of desperation. You don't even know if he can handle a full season as the number 1 and you're rushing to sign him

The cracks are starting to show in this management group
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You have to consider the alternative though. If Lankinen walks we go into next season with an oft injured Demko and a wildly inconsistent Silovs. I don't feel very good about that. The UFA goalie pool is weak and quality backups will soon be going for 3m+ with the announced cap moving forward. So we pay a premium to get a known asset. A premium for a backup goalie. If he ends up in a 1 a/b situation with Demko the contract looks good. If Demko is broken we have an average NHL starting goalie for what will be below average dollars.

This is not an ideal situation. But that doesn't mean there is a better solution. Sometimes you have to act fast or risk losing it all. This is not a zero sum game. There can be some level of win/loss that still works out to the benefit of the team.

I still give this management group my full support. I have learned that one cannot look at a single deal with Allvin. He is a chef. The meal is not complete yet. Let him cook.
 
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Don't know if this has been said, but signing Lankinen before trading Demko brings Demmer's price down.
It's possible we keep Demko and trade Lankinen at his new value for this season's work. Demko was being hyped for his winning streak before the All Star Four Nations break.
 
settinguptheplay said:
You have to consider the alternative though. If Lankinen walks we go into next season with an oft injured Demko and a wildly inconsistent Silovs. I don't feel very good about that. The UFA goalie pool is weak and quality backups will soon be going for 3m+ with the announced cap moving forward. So we pay a premium to get a known asset. A premium for a backup goalie. If he ends up in a 1 a/b situation with Demko the contract looks good. If Demko is broken we have an average NHL starting goalie for what will be below average dollars.

This is not an ideal situation. But that doesn't mean there is a better solution. Sometimes you have to act fast or risk losing it all. This is not a zero sum game. There can be some level of win/loss that still works out to the benefit of the team.

I still give this management group my full support. I have learned that one cannot look at a single deal with Allvin. He is a chef. The meal is not complete yet. Let him cook.
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It is very annoying, but yeah most situations do end up like this - rarely a clear black and white result, but a muddy grey mess that we have to dig through for some time before coming out with either a somewhat positive or somewhat negative result.

I hope the signing will pan out well. The upcoming TDL once again will be a nail biter.
 
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Yeah, there is a lot to not like about this, we slightly over paid in term and dollar, not terribly mind you, and gave the NMC. Having said that I do feel this was the best move at this point. You know he fits, is well liked, and has made strides to improve and you can't go into next year with Silovs and Demko.

Think it also means there could be a chance to Move Demko, provided you get back a solid 1B type goalie. Maybe trade a Better Goalie (Demko) for a worse goalie but more stable. and pick up assets as well.
 
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I don’t mind this deal TBH.

Lankinen has been a quality starter. This is good money for that, but we ended up making some concessions on term to get the lower cap hit.

If he regresses with age, 4.5M for a solid backup in 3-4 years isn’t too bad with the cap going up.

I don’t like the NMC however, we are giving those out like candy.
 
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Seems the Canuck braintrust is determined to head into the off-season with as little turnover and roster question-marks as possible. Hence the signings of Marcus Pettersson, O'Connor and now Lankinen.

According to Puckpedia, the only impending UFA's on the Canucks are Boeser, Suter, Forbort and Juulsen. And I suspect at least two of those guys won't last past the TDL.

Just not sure about Suter. He's having a great season, but the Canucks may feel they can replace him with someone like Raty or Sasson.
 
Too rich for me. And the last couple of deals the team has signed are both between 500k and 1m too high. And the trades are value for more value going out. It brings back Bennning vibes where the cuts start to add up. We need a win or two here soon! It can't keep going this way.

Here is hoping they get good news on Brock and Demko or get real value back for them if they have to move, or that they can add another forward without overpaying elsewhere. The slide has to stop.
 
This seems like a desperate move to me. $4.5M is sort of the new 1A/1B money so AAV wise it's fair but the term... I like Lankinen and I think he's between an elite backup goalie and a 1B goalie. As a #1 starter going forward, I don't believe in him. This signing gives me a bit of relief that we have some semblance of a competent goalie next season and I have no issues allocating cap room to goaltending that that's it.

For those big on the "chef" references, I feel Allvin is Adam Sandler in the movie Spanglish.
 
VanJack said:
Seems the Canuck braintrust is determined to head into the off-season with as little turnover and roster question-marks as possible. Hence the signings of Marcus Pettersson, O'Connor and now Lankinen.

According to Puckpedia, the only impending UFA's on the Canucks are Boeser, Suter, Forbort and Juulsen. And I suspect at least two of those guys won't last past the TDL.

Just not sure about Suter. He's having a great season, but the Canucks may feel they can replace him with someone like Raty or Sasson.
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Suter cannot be replaced by either of them. I'd like him back honestly. I have a lot of faith in him and Blueger.

Maybe they can fool someone and move Juulsen at the TDL to someone looking for playoff truculence.
 
Not great, not terrible, but very necessary.

Unlike with certain forward, you just can’t rely on your goalie to find his former form for too long and I think we’re out of time there.
 
They had no choice, Demko health hasn’t been reliable for awhile now. Demko started to look amazing, like his old self then a new injury hit him. I’m hopeful he can recover over the offseason but this signing is needed insurance. 4.5 million for what he has done is definitely ok, if he can continue this, especially with where the cap is going.
 
Term seems pretty risky to me.

He's turning 30 in a couple months and has never had a starter's workload up until this season.

The AAV is solid given the significant increase in the cap coming.

Not sure what to think about it but hopefully they get some consistency over the next couple seasons.
 
Great price but the term... it's super premature. It's a trade off though, he would get more on a shorter deal.

I stand by what I've been saying on this though, whether Demko gets healthy or not wr should run them as a tandem unless Lankinen can prove he's on Demmers level. Demkos contract doesn't hold us back and he's the kind of elite goalie you shouldn't flippantly move unless you are certain you will never get him back consistently to what he was. If he gets consistently back on the ice this tandem could be insane. If he is up and down I'd give him til the TDL next season. If he's absolutely cooked then sure you move him if you get a good offer (provided the medical staff can make that determination). But I think going all in on Lankinen and sending Demko out for anything less than something that positively impacts our team 3-4 years would be a giant mistake (unless he's totally cooked, then you get what you can).
 
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Great price but the term... it's super premature. It's a trade off though, he would get more on a shorter deal.

I stand by what I've been saying on this though, whether Demko gets healthy or not wr should run them as a tandem unless Lankinen can prove he's on Demmers level. Demkos contract doesn't hold us back and he's the kind of elite goalie you shouldn't flippantly move unless you are certain you will never get him back consistently to what he was. If he gets consistently back on the ice this tandem could be insane. If he is up and down I'd give him til the TDL next season. If he's absolutely cooked then sure you move him if you get a good offer (provided the medical staff can make that determination). But I think going all in on Lankinen and sending Demko out for anything less than something that positively impacts our team 3-4 years would be a giant mistake (unless he's totally cooked, then you get what you can).
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Pretty sure nobody would want Demko right now and for the rest of the season. I could see Carolina come for him in the offseason and ask us to pay them to take Demko off our hands. The most pragmatic thing is to hold on to him and see what happens.
 
arttk said:
Pretty sure nobody would want Demko right now and for the rest of the season. I could see Carolina come for him in the offseason and ask us to pay them to take Demko off our hands. The most pragmatic thing is to hold on to him and see what happens.
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Exactly why I think in almost every scenario we wait til next year's TDL to see what we got. Give him an off season to work through this. If its still a popliteus injury that's bugging him it's something he can work around with enough time and effort.

I was mostly posting because I see so many people here and elsewhere saying this means Demko is gone for sure or that a near term trade is now the best move. I strongly disagree with that unless they know with certainty he's cooked (which i sincerely doubt they do)
 
Slapshot_11 said:
Terrible signing that reeks of desperation. You don't even know if he can handle a full season as the number 1 and you're rushing to sign him

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Lol people like you are going to be SHOCKED at the contracts handed out with the rising cap.

You may not like it, but this is what goalies like Lank are going to make now. And good 4th and 3rd liners are going to get anywhere from 2-4~ mil AAV. it's just how it is.
 
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Lol people like you are going to be SHOCKED at the contracts handed out with the rising cap.

You may not like it, but this is what goalies like Lank are going to make now. And good 4th and 3rd liners are going to get anywhere from 2-4~ mil AAV. it's just how it is.
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As much as we all know Jonas Korpisalo is not worth anywhere close to a 4,000,000 by 5 deal, thats what he signed on July 1, 2023.

We dont get to learn from that, THAT becomes the new bar or standard for goaltenders.

Jonas had a career high of 21 wins at that point, Lankinen has 19 already today and counting.

Hell Laurent Broissoit has never played more than 25 games in the show, ever and he got 3.3 x2 just last year and hasnt played a game yet due to injury.

Flower and Varly are both pushing 50 I feel like and still trotting themselves out there. Lanks will be fine.
 
why do we keep signing guys mid season? He’s had a great year but it feels like we sign high on everyone when their playing well rather than reevaluating when we need to
 
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