He scored 82 points for $5 million. He had a stinky first 20 games and then was excellent the rest of the season.
Your hyperbolic reaction to Miller at the time was crazy and you aren't backing off of it.
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He scored 82 points for $5 million. He had a stinky first 20 games and then was excellent the rest of the season.
Your hyperbolic reaction to Miller at the time was crazy and you aren't backing off of it.
PuckMunchkin
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Ive backed off plenty on my takes on Miller. Again and again and again.
But I dont think it can be overstated how horrific he was for the first half of 2022.
I have no idea why anyone would feel the need to rewrite that part of history unless out of bias.
Ive backed off plenty on my takes on Miller. Again and again and again.
But I dont think it can be overstated how horrific he was for the first half of 2022.
I have no idea why anyone would feel the need to rewrite that part of history unless out of bias.
He stunk for 20 games (but still produced).
By the 2nd 20-game segment he was fine. He was then legitimately good in the 2nd half. Overall he still more than paid for his contract. Like, the value that the team got from Miller for $5 million in 22-23 sure as f*** blew the value that they got for Boeser at $6.8 million out of the water but for some reason you're defending Boeser and hating on Miller.
He's a spaz and honestly I think his body language when he was extremely frustrated got projected onto his play more than anything.
There was a lot of reason to be concerned with Miller's play in 22-23, but it wasn't because of the contract he was currently playing on, it was because of the contract he had signed in the preceding off season.
Vancouver_2010
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Seriously, for someone who disappear offensively since the all star break and pretty much a liability in the post-season, holy cow, to say this is an overpayment is an understatement.
5th highest paid player in the league now....
Oh wait, Hronek thread? never mind.
That Miller thread was pure stupidity.
So many legitimately looked at this roster, right up until the start of this season, and thought 'rebuild'.
So many legitimately looked at this roster, right up until the start of this season, and thought 'rebuild'.
PuckMunchkin
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Lets continue this in the correct thread if you want.
I agree with you more than you think.
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Tough part is yet to begin with the 'dead cap hits' which is going to mean some cuts will be made. This is where Alvin earns his money.
bandwagonesque
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Absolutely, and I was guilty of it. He'd get pissed of for five seconds and people would talk about it for a week, and before long any bad play he made was attributed to his personality.
PuckMunchkin
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This Hronek extension is fine.
Its just over the cap hit I would have wanted for someone whose contribution to the Hughes pairing I still have a hard time quanrifying and who keeps getting injured...
Its great to have clarity. I worried this would drag on closer to the key arbitration dates.
Its just over the cap hit I would have wanted for someone whose contribution to the Hughes pairing I still have a hard time quanrifying and who keeps getting injured...
Its great to have clarity. I worried this would drag on closer to the key arbitration dates.
Ernie
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I said the Devon Toews contract should be the upper limit and that's what he got. He got another year but he's also 3 years younger than Toews so that seems reasonable.
Like it or not, he would have gotten this amount based on his last two seasons in Detroit, so you can't really argue he was signed because he plays with Hughes. Perhaps his falling to earth in the 2nd half of the season was a blessing in disguise because they could have been looking at $2m / season more.
The Canucks will still have an opportunity to move him before next season should the need arise.
Like it or not, he would have gotten this amount based on his last two seasons in Detroit, so you can't really argue he was signed because he plays with Hughes. Perhaps his falling to earth in the 2nd half of the season was a blessing in disguise because they could have been looking at $2m / season more.
The Canucks will still have an opportunity to move him before next season should the need arise.
That is the key. Had they been the same age, Toews cap aav would be like $1 million plus more than Hronek's rather than just $500K.
I mean, Toews when he begins year 6 and 7 at 35 and 36 years of age, probably would be paid like $5-$5.75 mill in real money. Whereas if he was starting at age 28, 29, those 2 years, he'd be paid mid $8's or so. So, that would be around $6 mill more in real money, which averaged out over the term of a deal would be about $750K higher on the AAV.
That's why the AAV variance between the 2 is closer than some might like. But, not a true apples to apples because of the age difference.
Nick Lang
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That's a good way of looking at it. If we extend Hughes we're looking at the majority of our D, 3 of our top 3/4 locked up for the foreseeable future. Pretty damn great and important in the big scheme of things.
sandwichbird2023
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A D-core of Hughes-Hronek-Willander seems like a pretty good core, assuming again that Willander develop as expected. Speed, skills, passing, shooting, 2-way play, ice-tilting, etc. It has everything except size, which is not impossible to address (we acquired Soucy, Cole, Zadorov just in the last 12 months). Its a nice foundation to build on.
Diamonddog01
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Definitely one mitigating factor regarding this contract. If PLD can be moved then the team should have no issues moving Hronek (if the need arises).
If all goes well, EP2 would ripen right around the time when Soucy's contract ends.
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now that the contract extension is done hronek better be shooting 500 picks a day learning how to hit the motherf***ing net
and retraining himself to move the puck under pressure, because he got way too used to auto-dropping the puck back to hughes whenever a forechecker so much as looked at him
and retraining himself to move the puck under pressure, because he got way too used to auto-dropping the puck back to hughes whenever a forechecker so much as looked at him
Id go easy on him to start. 100 at a barn, 50 at a garage door, and 25 at the net in front of it
In his presser, he mentioned getting stronger as the biggest factor in him keeping up his performance for the full season. The trend of fading in the second half was noted by Detroit fans last fall when he was doing well. If that is the situation, getting stronger is pretty feasible, although tough to do in one offseason. Be interesting to see how he looks brand new again next fall.
