Canucks prospects on D, encouraging?

tanti9

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Despite the lack of high-end draft picks, I am (optimistic?) finding that Canucks D prospects are trending positively.

We have Willander who seems to have taken another step this year and hopefully can be a permanent top 4 dman in the years to come. He skates well and seems to be more offensive minded this year and thinks the game well defensively.

Elias Pettersson looks like he can round into a bottom pairing maybe a number 4. He likes to play a heavy game and moves well, not everyone can be a point producer but maybe can be a reliable dman partner for someone more offensive skilled.

Kudryavtsev is making a statement down in the AHL this year and has gained ice time and the coach's trust since the beginning of the year. After last night is up to 10 points in 16 games as a rookie in the AHL. He may not be a point producer in the NHL but he has defied the odds since being drafted in the 7th round, already looking like a steal.

Mynio has done nothing but improved since being drafted in the 3rd round two years ago. He is on the radar of the World junior team this year, no small feat. I know he gets a ton of playing time in Seattle and is the go to guy on the powerplay but he has earned the time.

I know the chances of all of 4 above making it and hitting their ceiling are slim but it is a promising situation to follow. Seems like overall our drafting under Allvin and Rutherford has done well and even drafted players like Brzustewicz (traded at the tight time?) can be trade chips.

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credulous

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willander and kydryavtsev will almost certainly see nhl time soon and probably have decent careers. mynio has a shot to be a good player but it's too early to be too confident about him. dorrington is more of a longshot but he has a chance too

i still think pettersson is way too limited to be a full time nhler
 

Mr. Canucklehead

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willander and kydryavtsev will almost certainly see nhl time soon and probably have decent careers. mynio has a shot to be a good player but it's too early to be too confident about him. dorrington is more of a longshot but he has a chance too

i still think pettersson is way too limited to be a full time nhler

Interesting, I see D-Petey as an almost surefire bet to play in the NHL. Offensive upside is limited, but he has that prototypical depth defensemen skillset that lends itself to guys playing games.

Willander will be with the Canucks by the end of the season, and Kudryatsev's recent performance on the farm is extremely encouraging. But I think more of a sample size is needed.
 

credulous

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Interesting, I see D-Petey as an almost surefire bet to play in the NHL. Offensive upside is limited, but he has that prototypical depth defensemen skillset that lends itself to guys playing games.

Willander will be with the Canucks by the end of the season, and Kudryatsev's recent performance on the farm is extremely encouraging. But I think more of a sample size is needed.

pettersson has size and hits but he's not good enough in transition or at retrievals to carve out an nhl career imo. his puck skills are also way below par. if he can improve on the retrievals and transition d he might have a shot but i think the odds are lined up against him
 

Quinning

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Now, let's actually keep and develop most of these guys so we can get some young talent in the bottom pairings. Stop signing UFAs to term.
 
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VanJack

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Any time two 20-year-olds like Kudryavtsev and Pettersson are playing as well as they are in the AHL right now, it's not a stretch to be optimistic. Along with Wilander--who's virtually an NHL automatic- that's an encouraging blueline pool.

And as far as Mynio is concerned, Tocchet went out of his way to praise his game. And a 19-year old even getting into NHL pre-season games is a positive sign.

The transition to the NHL game can be a painful experience for young d-men. But I could easily see all these guys eventually playing NHL games. Considering three of the four were drafted in the third round or later, that's about all you ask.
 

IComeInPeace

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Taking into consideration that Kudraystev is 11 months older, what do you guys think the difference is in asset value between Hunter B vs Kudryavtsev compared to 2 months ago?

I’d say Hunter B has maybe dropped from being as high as a late 1st/early 2nd at his peak (in terms of trade value) to maybe as low as a 3rd rounder at this point (and dropping).

Kudryavtsev has definitely increased his value in my eyes and may already be worth as much as a 4th rounder (and climbing).
 
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tyhee

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Taking into consideration that Kudraystev is 11 months older, what do you guys think the difference is in asset value between Hunter B vs Kudryavtsev compared to 2 months ago?

I’d say Hunter B has maybe dropped from being as high as a late 1st/early 2nd at his peak (in terms of trade value) to maybe as low as a 3rd rounder at this point (and dropping).

Kudryavtsev has definitely increased his value in my eyes and may already be worth as much as a 4th rounder (and climbing).
Yes, the gap has been closing and might already be closed. It could happen later if his development stalls but personally I think if the Canucks move Kudryavtsev in the next month or two it will be in a trade for immediate help, not for a pick.
 

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