Speculation: Canucks Off-Season is going to be Fun

[creg]

Idk Canucks seem pretty thoroughly screwed to me, they're missing far and away the hardest thing to acquire: actual top-end talent.

I suppose they could hit on some free agents, but so much would need to go right next season for them to be viewed as an actual contender again.

 

[jackjohnson]

Tocchet looks pretty checked out this season, you might want to start with a new coach.

Top priorities should be Ehlers and Bennett. The defence and goaltending is built.

Ehlers and Bennett would be awesome. Another target for Canucks would be Tuch. I would also explore the option of landing Marner.

Debrusk-Pettersson-Marner
Chytil-Bennett-Lekkermaki
Joshua-Raty-Garland
Connor-Blueger-Sherwood

we would have to trade Hoglander and let Boeser walk to make it happen but I wonder if the cap would work? Another problem would be Marner, Lekkermaki and Chytil making our top 6 a bit soft. I would probably swap Chytil and Hoglander for Alex Tuch.

 

[jackjohnson]

Idk Canucks seem pretty thoroughly screwed to me, they're missing far and away the hardest thing to acquire: actual top-end talent.

I suppose they could hit on some free agents, but so much would need to go right next season for them to be viewed as an actual contender again.

I think with everything that has gone wrong for them this season, the only thing that would happen is for them to go up since they already hit rock bottom this season. I really doubt the injuries and bad luck and drama that happened this year will repeat next year unless there is some witch craft involved that is putting a curse on Canucks.

 

[Zanon]

Yes it is a bottom third D in the league. Fixed for you


Quinn hughes = Top 2 offensive Dman in the world who plays little to no actual defense in his own zone
Hronek = Solid defensive dman, but still a middle pairing guy on most if not all playoff teams. He doesnt have a 1 anywhere except on crap teams.
m.petey = bottom pairing dman on most teams
Myers = bottom pairing dman on most teams
DPETEY = who?
Mancini = who?
Willander = who?

Helps that Hughes is the #1 puck possession defenseman in the NHL. Can't defend when you usually have the puck on your stick.

 

[jackjohnson]

Yes it is a bottom third D in the league. Fixed for you


Quinn hughes = Top 2 offensive Dman in the world who plays little to no actual defense in his own zone
Hronek = Solid defensive dman, but still a middle pairing guy on most if not all playoff teams. He doesnt have a 1 anywhere except on crap teams.
m.petey = bottom pairing dman on most teams
Myers = bottom pairing dman on most teams
DPETEY = who?
Mancini = who?
Willander = who?

Quinn Hughes has been praised as one of the world best dman, team USA begged him to join their team during 4 nations and he won Norris last year. So you can give your baseless opinion all you like, it doesn't change the fact that Hughes is one of the best dman in the NHL. Thats like me saying McDavid sucks when he doesn't in reality.

Also the bottom 3 dman that you wrote "who?" just shows your lack of hockey knowledge when it comes to great NHL prospects.

Canucks also have the top 10 PK in the league with Lankinen and Silovs playing 90% of the regular season. That shows Canucks actually have decent defense. Top 5 since Marcus Pettersson joined.

 

[jackjohnson]

Helps that Hughes is the #1 puck possession defenseman in the NHL. Can't defend when you usually have the puck on your stick.

He is a one of a kind player, dman at that when it comes to moving the puck, transitioning and dangling near the blue line in the offensive zone. The only players i see doing that are McDavid and McKinnon and they are elite forwards. I just don't think people understand how underrated Hughes still is when he is putting so much points with 2 top centers missing and no elite forward that can help him. I think the only other dman similar to him is Lane Hutson.

 

[Filthy Dangles]

I mean hey, "compiling points" in the playoffs is what you have to do. He's a lot better at that than some of the soft ass players in the league, like EP and the Toronto 4.

Lol. You simply haven't watched him this year if you would take him over or think he's better than any of Marner/Matthews/Nylander at this time, he's not close. He's simply not an impactful player anymore.

He's 32 years old at this point and a guy who's relied on physical tools more than smarts/IQ compared to other top players. So there's good reason to expect he is going to decline rather rapidly and the wheels will fall off sooner than most.

 

[JKG33]

Lol. You simply haven't watched him this year if you would take him over or think he's better than any of Marner/Matthews/Nylander at this time, he's not close. He's simply not an impactful player anymore.

He's 32 years old at this point and a guy who's relied on physical tools more than smarts/IQ compared to other top players. So there's good reason to expect he is going to decline rather rapidly and the wheels will fall off sooner than most.

You simply have never watched the Leafs or EP in the playoffs if you think Miller isnt better, especially the last 2 years

 

[creg]

I think with everything that has gone wrong for them this season, the only thing that would happen is for them to go up since they already hit rock bottom this season. I really doubt the injuries and bad luck and drama that happened this year will repeat next year unless there is some witch craft involved that is putting a curse on Canucks.

I mean sure, but the reality is their current roster isn't good - they've made some moves to shore up their defense but currently their top scoring forward has 49 points and is expected to walk this off-season.

Even if everyone rebounds (a big if!) - they need to significantly improve their forward group. They seem like a team that's closer to a rebuild than contention but that's clearly not the direction their front office wants to go in.

 

[bringbacktheskate604]

Goalie situation isnt fine with goalies who can't even get past .900 sv under this supposedly good defense. Probably need to upgrade on Myers who will be one year older. MPetterson is more of a number 4/5 than a 3. Young number 2 Centers are almost impossible to get so you might have to just go for Bennett. Rebuilding teams tend not to trade youngish centers. Maybe Zacha is still considered a C? Maybeee Minny hates Rossi for some unexplainable reason (but they will want win now pieces).

Are you seriously judging Demko on this season? Even for you that's hilarious.

Marcus is a clear #3 gimme a break and Myers has been very good for awhile now and likely anchors the bottom pair with EP 2 who has been great and is barely 21. Add in Willander and Mancini and our Dcorp is a major strength.

With D and G set the nucks need to spend that 24 million in cap on a playmaking winger or two.
I would love to add a 2c and maybe something similar to the Hronek trade presents itself ( Barzel?) but realistically EP- Chytil - Raty Suter? assuming EP and Chytil stay healthy and if Raty who is clearly a minimum 3c elite FO guy who has shown he has offensive upside.

EP despite what the haters say is a better that a ppg player, Chytil if healthy and more minutes should be a 60 point guy, leaving Raty and Blueger in the bottom six if Suter walks. Not a barn burning C group but really if EP gets back to pre-injury 100 point guy it looks a lot better.
Dream scenario would be to add Marner, followed by Ehlers.
Hopefully Brock stays but whatever happens anyone who judges the team based on a season where so much went wrong have lost the plot.
That being said Allvin 100% needs to add another superstar forward (Marner) and every prospect except Willander and every pick including this year's 1st should be moved.

 

[Djp]

Will see what happens but Buffalo does tend to trade their good players often times for less than their value. Eichel being one

Eichrl was a very unique situation with him wanting unapproved surgery that the insurance company on t he contract would not cover

and Cozen might be another.

He was flipped for norris. Both change of scenery type of trade.

Buffalo will probably reshuffle their roster again after not making playoffs this year again.

Tuch is a local kid who was a sabres fan growing up. I expect him to be resigned thus summer. He isn't, then you could look at a trade occurring. Until the end of Sept he's goungbyo stay long term.

You also don't seem to understand he was traded fir Eichel. If he is traded for futures it's going to be a PR hellscape. If the trade him, it's a hockey trade, not a magic beans/ spare parts tradre

 

[JKG33]

Honestly, the Canucks aren't in horrible shape. If getting closer to a 50/50 split in net helps Demko stay healthy, then that's one of the better tandems in the league. 1-6 the defence is solid, probably a top 10 group in the league. The problem is up front thats easily a bottom 5 group, and I'd have a hard time finding 4 teams worse... The only one that immediately comes to mind is Chicago. But that's what happens when you give away your best forward and keep the guy who at this point is an overpaid 2nd liner.

 

[Filthy Dangles]

You simply have never watched the Leafs or EP in the playoffs if you think Miller isnt better, especially the last 2 years

Cool..that might as well be ancient history at this point.

(btw, I'm a Ranger fan, I wish what you were syaing is true, it simply isn't.)

Seems like youre a Canucks hater who's either seriously misinformed about what Miller is at this point or just trying to stir the pot.

 

[604]

They need demko healthy and in top form, and they need EP to atleast be a ppg player with selke defence to have any chance. If they don’t, they are screwed

Yes, and Hughes needs to keep being Hughes.

In short, they need their best players to be their best players.

 

[JKG33]

Cool..that might as well be ancient history at this point.

(btw, I'm a Ranger fan, I wish what you were syaing is true, it simply isn't.)

Seems like youre a Canucks hater who's either seriously misinformed about what Miller is at this point or just trying to stir the pot.

Miller was a stud as recently as the last playoffs. He was far and away the Canucks best forward. I'd take the sample size of his entire playoff career with the Canucks over one rough regular season where he was still a great player.

Despite my hatred of the Rags I was pulling for them to get the 8 seed just so we could see playoff Miller again

 

[Coffee]

Idk Canucks seem pretty thoroughly screwed to me, they're missing far and away the hardest thing to acquire: actual top-end talent.

I suppose they could hit on some free agents, but so much would need to go right next season for them to be viewed as an actual contender again.

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